ARMAT

Has there been a decision regarding the ARMAT? Will it be implemented?

Really another one of these threads?

No. M2000C cannot carry it. It has been discussed many times. Also things like exocet are not carried.

No. M2000C cannot carry it. It has been discussed many times. Also things like exocet are not carried.

I don't care if you've discussed it a thousand times.

I want to know what RAZBAM's decision is.

No. M2000C cannot carry it.

Is it so hard to understand?

I don't care if you've discussed it a thousand times.

 

I want to know what RAZBAM's decision is.

If u read one the thousand discussions you will know it.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=147288

Here you can read a comprehensive discussion about differents Mirage 2000's versions and payloads.

Let's avoid jumping down this gents throat, yes there have been a few (now very old) threads but as of last contact from Razbam on the subject the final decision hadn't been made.

If u read one the thousand discussions you will know it.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=147288

Here you can read a comprehensive discussion about differents Mirage 2000's versions and payloads.

It's good of you to put that up, but in fairness even that thread points to the ARMAT as a possibility, so I can understand this user having a question

That being said I take the recent post in the "future air to ground weapons" thread above this to be a somewhat definite answer- in that he mentioned the only remaining weapons left to develop for the M2000- The ARMAT was not among them. Here is that post:

The only weapons remaining are the BLG-66 Belougas and the BAP-100.

It would have been cool, but if the aircraft wasn't/couldn't have been equipped and RAZBAM believes it is not an appropriate departure from soundly documented sources it not being implemented is totally understandable. From what I know about modding of weapons it's not exactly an easy thing and would require some additional coding at the least, never mind the blanks left in about how such a weapon would even be fired (HUD modes, PCA interaction, etc.)

If RAZBAM did end up doing it, I can say with some certainty there would be a bit of a community dispute about it between those who loved the new SEAD weapon and those who wanted purism. That could perhaps be abated by a check-able server side option sort of like the INS forced alignment, or even the D2M launch plume detector that may still be up in the air, but again I think at this point the ARMAT isn't coming. It would be nice to hear the final verdict, but if RAZBAM remains silent I can estimate the decision is no-go.

If I were Razbam developer I'd give the M2000 this capability despite the dispute. Simply for the gameplay sake. Enthusiast and hardcore can always ignore it and in MP server owner can disable it. Win-win solution. But that's just me....dream mode on :D

Gam Zeh Ya'avor - King Salomon

If u read one the thousand discussions you will know it.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=147288

Here you can read a comprehensive discussion about differents Mirage 2000's versions and payloads.

I didn't read any user discussions, because they don't matter.

What RAZBAM says matters.

It appears this is too hard to understand for you, since you are so blindly focused on spreading hate. :)

I didn't read any user discussions, because they don't matter.

 

What RAZBAM says matters.

 

It appears this is too hard to understand for you, since you are so blindly focused on spreading hate. :)

You know there are people who despise Mirage having 4x Magic loadout because and I quote

"They don't know if they're flying Greek Mirage or French and they don't know which is which and the loadout should be disabled"

So ... you'll always have these kinds of people

But saying that I did hear that Zeus said that there are only bombs left as weapons

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2909609&postcount=2

I didn't read any user discussions, because they don't matter.

 

What RAZBAM says matters.

 

It appears this is too hard to understand for you, since you are so blindly focused on spreading hate. :)

And if you actually read said discussions, you'd see RAZBAM already answered. Hence the replies you get here.

You know there are people who despise Mirage having 4x Magic loadout because and I quote

"They don't know if they're flying Greek Mirage or French and they don't know which is which and the loadout should be disabled"

 

So ... you'll always have these kinds of people

 

But saying that I did hear that Zeus said that there are only bombs left as weapons

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2909609&postcount=2

Funny you go still on about that, and really in an unprofessional way. "These people", well, I`ve been here since BS1, tell me, when did you first start flying DCS? Just because I support the realism which has been trademark of DCS shouldn`t make "the masses" which joined recently and wish for a mix between casual game A and casual game B to be decisive. Luckily for me ED doesn`t bother with that.

Just so it`s said, I never minded that they go for the Greek version, but it is a different one, not the French. As such, it would be more correct to split it up and make as a "separate" version that is a different plane. However, since Zeus67 updated the info on it, claiming that French M2000C is capable of taking 4x Magic 550 II`s instead of 2x2x, it`s all solved. Or do you maybe support having sharks shooting lasers mounted on your plane, hmm?

Maybe this is what you wish for afterall?:

I would imagine we would have a better community (going back to the roots) if people stayed away from criticising others and instead respect each other, the way it was always done here. Maybe I`m just delusive, who knows...

TIP: Careful with quotation marks, as name implies, they quote, and what you put in between there is not a quote buddy.

Funny you go still on about that, and really in an unprofessional way. "These people", well, I`ve been here since BS1, tell me, when did you first start flying DCS? Just because I support the realism which has been trademark of DCS shouldn`t make "the masses" which joined recently and wish for a mix between casual game A and casual game B to be decisive. Luckily for me ED doesn`t bother with that.

 

Just so it`s said, I never minded that they go for the Greek version, but it is a different one, not the French. As such, it would be more correct to split it up and make as a "separate" version that is a different plane. However, since Zeus67 updated the info on it, claiming that French M2000C is capable of taking 4x Magic 550 II`s instead of 2x2x, it`s all solved. Or do you maybe support having sharks shooting lasers mounted on your plane, hmm?

 

Maybe this is what you wish for afterall?:

 

*pic*

 

I would imagine we would have a better community (going back to the roots) if people stayed away from criticising others and instead respect each other, the way it was always done here. Maybe I`m just delusive, who knows...

 

TIP: Careful with quotation marks, as name implies, they quote, and what you put in between there is not a quote buddy.

Thanks, you're speaking out of my heart! Although I would still prefer to not have 4 Magics on the M2000, because as far as I know, that has never been done in the french air force which makes me sceptical that those pylons were actually wired for Magics in french service.