Dagger71 Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 So I finally decided to get a new gaming/sim PC. 4770K with R9 290. I didn't do much research on these forums regarding AMD, but FSX forums seem to indicate the ATI drivers seem to be much improved and issues apparently minimal. After posting my specs on another post I now see that many people have issues with FPS/stuttering with AMd cards. Tell me this isn't so!!! From all the reviews I read regarding the 290, its a great performer at a cheaper cost than a GTX780. my past rigs included GTX450, GTX7950x2 and prior to that I had Radeon cards from 2000-2006. The radeon cards sometimes gave me grief but the omega drivers usually cleared them up. My primary games are Skyrim, WWiionline, ARMA series, DCSW (A10c, CA and FC3 for now) and FSX (with a few addons). The last PC I had didn't run them (apart from Skyrim) very well, but it was expected since I only had a dual core OC to 3.1. Graphically I could use mid to high settings with the GTX450. Does anyone have the AMD 290 while running DCSW and FSX smoothly. I expected to be able to run the above at 40-60fps smoothly (ill take smooth running at lower FPS then stuttering at higher FPS). Are people still using Omega drivers to improve performance? I purchased all the major components from Tigerdirect and now I'm wondering if I should send back the R290 and get the GTX770 instead.
SkateZilla Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 Hold out for DX11/Edge Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
blkspade Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 So I finally decided to get a new gaming/sim PC. 4770K with R9 290. I didn't do much research on these forums regarding AMD, but FSX forums seem to indicate the ATI drivers seem to be much improved and issues apparently minimal. After posting my specs on another post I now see that many people have issues with FPS/stuttering with AMd cards. Tell me this isn't so!!! From all the reviews I read regarding the 290, its a great performer at a cheaper cost than a GTX780. my past rigs included GTX450, GTX7950x2 and prior to that I had Radeon cards from 2000-2006. The radeon cards sometimes gave me grief but the omega drivers usually cleared them up. My primary games are Skyrim, WWiionline, ARMA series, DCSW (A10c, CA and FC3 for now) and FSX (with a few addons). The last PC I had didn't run them (apart from Skyrim) very well, but it was expected since I only had a dual core OC to 3.1. Graphically I could use mid to high settings with the GTX450. Does anyone have the AMD 290 while running DCSW and FSX smoothly. I expected to be able to run the above at 40-60fps smoothly (ill take smooth running at lower FPS then stuttering at higher FPS). Are people still using Omega drivers to improve performance? I purchased all the major components from Tigerdirect and now I'm wondering if I should send back the R290 and get the GTX770 instead. The AMD cards for all intents and purposes are fine in just about everything you listed. They aren't exactly the best performing in DCS, but stuttering could be coming from another source. I haven't tried the 290 specifically but I am currently on 6950(70), and was playing on 7970 that died and needs a RMA. Generally gameplay is very smooth though there are areas that slow down, but in most case those times are times that slow down no matter what hardware you are throwing at it. I couldn't tell you anything about FSX as I stopped trying to play that a very long time ago. http://104thphoenix.com/
WildBillKelsoe Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 in short, AMD cards are good for playing cards... get nVidia and be a KING! And thanks in advance to all the negative rep :D AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
blkspade Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 in short, AMD cards are good for playing cards... get nVidia and be a KING! And thanks in advance to all the negative rep :D That's a funny statement considering the 290 cards outperform the nvidia cards in most games at or around the same msrp. If he got it at a non-gouged price, then was a really good choice. http://104thphoenix.com/
Blaze Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 Almost bought the R9 290, but the price gouging thanks to all the bitcoin miners made the price absolutely absurd. i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. "
Dagger71 Posted April 4, 2014 Author Posted April 4, 2014 ok thanks for feedback. I guess I will hold onto it and see how it goes with Edge. The price was fair(cheaper than the 780), and I bought it thinking it would last a few years. I'll see how it goes next week (hopefully, since some of the parts have already been delayed).
SkateZilla Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 I'll tell you what I have in my testing rig on April 8th :p Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Nopileus Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 My R9 290 powers through almost anything i throw at it, there are only two things that cause "issues" (this is with a i5 2500k at 4,2ghz and 8gb RAM) One being DCS, that just hovers around the 35fps mark, that changes with every driver and whichever mission you are playing. While i don't have intimate knowledge i figure it's somehow limited by driver overhead. The other one being Project CARS, which is still in a pretty early phase of development and has not received any form of optimization. PS: Get RadeonPro, it lets you tweak profiles on a per-game basis and has some very good options for vsync or advanced AA methods
Goose_Man Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 EDGE will help, not regret the R9 290 I played a lot of DCS A10C on my 560Ti and it was fine but I just recently bought an R9 290 (get it next week). DCS World currently runs DX9 and AMD has essentially dropped any specific support for DX9 engines. This makes Nvidia perform better as they have strong DX9 drivers but that's not to say AMD won't be in the lead when EDGE is released (hopefully within 2 months). EDGE will run on DX11 and AMD have spent a lot of time and effort in the drivers for DX11 titles. Only improvements to come as well with the driver tuning from the new R9 chips. Don't sweat it, AMD has made a great performing, bang for your buck card with the R9 290 and drivers will only improve it. Worse case scenario it doesn't run as well on DCS World DX9 with it's counter parts from Nvidia and you wait a couple months before AMD make use of the EDGE engine running DX11. Congrats on the new build!
GregP Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 I haven't used Nvidia cards in a few years, mostly because I have a 3D monitor that only works with AMD cards. But in DCS at least, I'm having no problems at all with my R9 290, and am able to maintain 20-50 FPS even at 4K resolution. All post-13.9 drivers end up dropping FPS by about 15-30%, but simply dropping some dll's into your DCS folder easily overcomes that and brings FPS levels back up to what they were in 13.9.
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