What's next?

[JayPee]

First of all let me thank Wags/ED for the creation of definitions and boundaries in this post on product terms as it makes discussing the subject a lot easier.

 

Now, regardless of user polls, whishlists, etc. I'm hoping for an official answer on this question. It might be a long shot but I'm at least trying.

 

Does ED currently have plans (dates and deadlines left aside for now) to model a platform:

 

1. which will have a professional flight model;
   
2. which will have advanced systems modeling;
   
3. of which the modeled aircraft version/revision/suite/block will still be in active service at the time of the final product release (as in: not being phased out IRL during beta for example);
   
4. and of which a more advanced and/or newer variant is not yet in active service at the time of the final product release.
   

To prevent confusion, by item #4 I mean e.g. the AH-64A while the AH-64D is in service, the F-18C vs F-18E, the F-15C vs F-15E and so on.

 

Let it be clear that I am not asking for deadlines and promises which are subject to change anyway, I'm merely asking if plans exist.

[Flagrum]

Weired question ... with all these constraints (esp. #4), imo.

[JayPee]

How is it weird? What is there not to understand about this question? I tried to be as precise as possible.

Edited July 20, 2014 by JayPee

[Flagrum]

How is it weird? What is there not to understand about this question? I tried to be as precise as possible.

No, nothing unclear, just weired. :o)

 

While I can understand constraint #3 to some extend ("finally a modern and current aircraft!"), I have problems to see the relevance for constraint #4. To me it sounds as if you are looking for an aircraft that is not only modern and current, but also not becoming obsolete in forseeable future.

 

But not obsolete is relative, depending on what you want to do with an aircraft. There are many aircrafts in service somewere in the world that are already phased out in others. As long as they get their job done, they are not obsolete.

 

And for the sim as such, I can't see the relevance even less. DCS is not restricted to a time frame, especially not to "exactly today".

 

What would you gain ... or what is it that makes you wish for such aircrafts? Or the other way around, what would be the drawbacks if you get an aircraft to which a successor is already on the horizon?

[26-J39]

Does ED currently have plans (dates and deadlines left aside for now) to model a platform:

 

1. 
   
2. which will have a professional flight model;
   
3. which will have advanced systems modeling;
   
4. of which the modeled aircraft version/revision/suite/block will still be in active service at the time of the final product release (as in: not being phased out IRL during beta for example);
   
5. and of which a more advanced and/or newer variant is not yet in active service at the time of the final product release..

Simply not going to happen... Come on you really think an active service aircraft will be modelled by ED and released while said aircraft is still in service? :huh:

[joey45]

WEll, they're doing the F/A-18C for starters... Other then that we don't know what's on their todo list.

[Flagrum]

WEll, they're doing the F/A-18C for starters... Other then that we don't know what's on their todo list.

But the C is superseded by the E, right?

[joey45]

A 3rd party is doing the Suprahornet.

[Flagrum]

A 3rd party is doing the Suprahornet.

That was not the question ... as I understood it at least.

 

OP was talking about RL variants that are "current" and "not about to become obsolete" and if such are in the plans for DCS.

[JayPee]

No, nothing unclear, just weired. :o)

 

While I can understand constraint #3 to some extend ("finally a modern and current aircraft!"), I have problems to see the relevance for constraint #4. To me it sounds as if you are looking for an aircraft that is not only modern and current, but also not becoming obsolete in forseeable future.

 

But not obsolete is relative, depending on what you want to do with an aircraft. There are many aircrafts in service somewere in the world that are already phased out in others. As long as they get their job done, they are not obsolete.

 

And for the sim as such, I can't see the relevance even less. DCS is not restricted to a time frame, especially not to "exactly today".

 

What would you gain ... or what is it that makes you wish for such aircrafts? Or the other way around, what would be the drawbacks if you get an aircraft to which a successor is already on the horizon?

 

 

I understand you now. Yes, items 3&4 are not matters of good or bad, they are solely a matter of my own personal preference of wanting the "latest & greatest" and not a thing "less". Let me put it this way: when I see a flash item on CNN of a Hornet E bombing a terrorist hideout, I want to simulate that setting, and if possible I'd rather not replace that E with a C. Again, this is absolutely not a norm or general demand, it's just my favourite flavour.

 

I simply could've asked: will we be getting a modern fighter? But such a question is going to lead to such a huge amount of subjectivity on subjects as what is modern vs. what isn't etcetera that I'd rather use ED's own method of classification to somehow find out if they'll be modeling a full fidelity platform which can reasonably be called 'current'.

Edited July 20, 2014 by JayPee

[Flagrum]

I understand you now. Yes, items 3&4 are not matters of good or bad, they are solely a matter of my own personal preference of wanting the "latest & greatest" and not a thing "less". Let me put it this way: when I see a flash item on CNN of a Hornet E bombing a terrorist hideout, I want to simulate that setting, and if possible I'd rather not replace that E with a C. Again, this is by far a norm or general demand, it's just my favourite flavour.

While I absolutely share your desire for the most current technology, I think you are unnecessarily/artificially restricting yourself here too much.

 

My advice would be, just watch some older footage instead - YT is your friend! :o)

 

But hey, asking doesn't hurt - and maybe you even get an answer.

[JayPee]

You're probably hinting at ED's F-18C. In that case, I'd like an answer one my #1 and #2...

 

@ Joey: You're talking about the Superbug yes. Somewhere on the board is still a topic in which someone connected to the Superbug's developers (I think he goes by the name of Silver_Dragon) was desperately trying to dodge my million dollar question after which he eventually had to confess the 18E's systems will be modeled around what ED would deem Standard Systems Modeling using their new fidelity naming convention.

Edited July 20, 2014 by JayPee

[Sceptre]

VEAO is making a Eurofighter which has to be slightly toned down from the military grade simulation, but it will still have clickable cockpit and Advanced flight model. And I doubt anyone here has flown a Eurofighter so we won't b able to tell the differance :)