Alladyn Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) I wanted to brake my engine in D-9 and in P-51. Funny enough, on p-51 full throttle and prop, on d-9 auto full throttle. I read somewhere that people are braking theirs engines very fast, and especially d-9 on low altitude. I flew, and flew till my fuel ends. No blowing up what so ever. I flew straight p-51 ~350-400mph and d-9 ~600-650kmh on alt 10-200m ofc sim settings, and instant action, free flight Did I something wrong? Edited September 19, 2014 by Alladyn [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
JST Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Hmph, I think not only requiring high stress, it is probably randomized as well. Once, engine on my Dora died 2 minutes after takeoff, full power with MW50. Although there have been dozens of similar situations. Edited September 19, 2014 by JST My skins/liveries for Fw 190 D-9 and Bf 109 K-4: My blog or Forums. Open for requests as well. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ZaltysZ Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 You will hardly break it while flying fast. Try turning at 300km/h or so. The reason why most people break engines is overheating, which happens because: 1) not enough airflow over radiator while flying slow on full power for too long 2) lagging automatics of radiators (if you fly at high speed for long enough, your radiator will close, however if you bleed all the speed suddenly, it won't be able to open up fast enough to cope with sudden change of airflow and spiked temperatures). Wir sehen uns in Walhalla.
Aeons Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 what was the outside air temp? cowls fully open? what did the temp gauges indicate?
Teapot Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Sometimes, I throttle up the P-51 right when I'm taking off and BOOM!!! Engine freezes. Sometimes, after a minute or two in the air, same thing. Funny part is that if I'm just working on ground attacks or whatever, I start the mission with plane already fired up and ready to go so I know that it's set up properly. It doesn't take all that much to stop the P-51 in it's tracks. FWIW when I first jumped into the DCS P51-D from IL2 and Aces High I thought back then that it'd be a piece of cake. I've been wanting complex engine management in a prop sim for years and when I finally got it it took me ages to adjust. Now, I couldn't imagine anything worse than a dumbed down prop simulator experience! There's a valid reason that the RPM and Manifold chart is pasted on the right sill of the Mustang, and it's a good idea (rule of thumb) to stay in the green for the temp dials. Follow these two simple rules and you'll mostly be ok .. well, until the shooting starts! :D Other than that it's OK to push the engine for short bursts .. but never for too long. "A true 'sandbox flight sim' requires hi-fidelity flyable non-combat utility/support aircraft." Wishlist Terrains - Bigger maps Wishlist Modules - A variety of utility aircraft to better reflect the support role. E.g. Flying the Hornet ... big yawn ... flying a Caribou on a beer run to Singapore? Count me in. Extracting a Recon Patrol from a hastily prepared landing strip at a random 6 figure grid reference? Now yer talking!
Alladyn Posted September 19, 2014 Author Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) You will hardly break it while flying fast. Try turning at 300km/h or so. The reason why most people break engines is overheating, which happens because: 1) not enough airflow over radiator while flying slow on full power for too long 2) lagging automatics of radiators (if you fly at high speed for long enough, your radiator will close, however if you bleed all the speed suddenly, it won't be able to open up fast enough to cope with sudden change of airflow and spiked temperatures). Thanks, I see. I thought that full throttle might blow up engine, even with cool temps. Thanks :thumbup: edit===== what was the outside air temp? cowls fully open? what did the temp gauges indicate? I didn't use boosts./\Manual rads on d-9 100c120o./\Outside temps were set default, like on instant action free flight. This sim is a Blast! Edited September 19, 2014 by Alladyn [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
nervousenergy Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 There's a checkbox in the settings page for random systems failures. That's a bit too realistic for me... I leave it unchecked. It's easy to fry the Dora engine if you stall it in a vertical climb and don't back off on the throttle. The AI, for example, in the P-51 loves to pull up into a hammerhead when you get behind him and stall fight. If you follow him up to get the shot and stay too long in the vertical and start to stall out with low airspeed, you've got to back off the throttle immediately or watch the temps spike and the engine blow. PC - 3900X - Asus Crosshair Hero VIII - NZXT Kraken 63 - 32 GB RAM - 2080ti - SB X-Fi Titanium PCIe - Alienware UW - Windows 10 Sim hardware - Warthog throttle - VKB Gunfighter III - CH Quadrant - Slaw Device Pedals - Obutto R3volution pit - HP Reverb G2 - 2X AuraSound shakers
OutOnTheOP Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 I'm curious if there was an overall DCS systemic reduction of piston engine failures; it seems to me that the Merlin is quite a bit more tolerant of bad handling than I recall it being a few months ago. I would chalk it up to my increased experience, but I'm pretty sure I was randomly blowing engines before when my temps were still in the green and power settings were at 50" or below, while now I can run for extended periods with 61"+ (provided that I still keep the temperatures no more than 10 or so degrees above the green)
kontiuka Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 Don't know about the Dora but I find the engine cools down more quickly in the Mustang at lower altitudes. This seems counter-intuitive as the ambient air would be warmer but it's also denser so my theory is the denser air is more efficient at carrying away heat.
DieHard Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 I wanted to brake my engine in D-9 and in P-51. Funny enough, on p-51 full throttle and prop, on d-9 auto full throttle. I read somewhere that people are braking theirs engines very fast, and especially d-9 on low altitude. I flew, and flew till my fuel ends. No blowing up what so ever. I flew straight p-51 ~350-400mph and d-9 ~600-650kmh on alt 10-200m ofc sim settings, and instant action, free flight Did I something wrong? I blew mine last night 15 minutes out. My engine was not running too hot or too cold, or too fast. I was at around 5,000 feet altitude. I had no battle damage that I could see in F2 view. The DoW server has random failures set. I have no idea why it blew. Maybe I took a flak hit. The landing gear came down with keypad press "g" and the landing flaps also came down which for me, is rare not to also lose the electrical system. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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