Russian aircraft cannons

[karambiatos]

The cannons mounted on the Russian aircraft all fire in one spot, and seem to have absolutely no spread, or extremely little spread.

For example it makes hitting small targets with the su-25 at range an absolute pain.

 

Is this realistic?

[Stuge]

Well, if i recall correctly, the russian fighters' cannons in FC1 were laser-accurate. You could snipe a particular engine of your high-G-pulling target from considerable range. :D

 

This is not the case anymore :) so yea there's considerable spread. But as i understand, that is intentional (for shotgun-style effect)

 

About su25/t i can only say that the tightness of the spread is good enough for strafing main battle tanks, i wouldn't want any more spread there.

[ricktoberfest]

Modern aircraft firing 1 gun should have very little spread. They are accurate on purpose. Older aircraft only had spread due to

1. More than 1 gun intersecting at a certain range

2. Less consistent quality ammo and manufacturing of components

 

These are by supposed to be "shotguns"

[ricktoberfest]

^are not shotgunss

[turkeydriver]

Read the history of the gun in the MiG-29, Su-27, and Su-33 (same gun and aiming system). It is laser accurate and, as its a single barrel gun, fires at a precise area. The M-61 in American jets is meant to align the firing barrel with the aim point so that it represents a single barrel but very high firing rate weapon, however, in practice it produces a spread after certain range and this can actually help in destroying an airborne target or blanketing an area on the ground. Sorry for the drawn out answer but yes the Russian jets have very accurate gun systems- mostly due to the laser range finder used for aiming(better than radar aiming)

[GGTharos]

It's actually designed to spread the rounds around.

[*Rage*]

I think Wags posted years ago the difference in spread was deliberate. 30mm vs 20mm. Traditionally european and russian fighters had heavier rounds than american fighters. More effective against bombers.

[GGTharos]

You can actually find documents about the M-61 design somewhere.

 

They put the barrels on a bit of a hinge to create a pattern, and they tested several patterns.

 

Currently the M-61 seems to under-perform. According to the docs 6 rounds on a snapshot pass are sufficient to guarantee the shoot-down of a MiG-29 for example.

[karambiatos]

You can actually find documents about the M-61 design somewhere.

 

They put the barrels on a bit of a hinge to create a pattern, and they tested several patterns.

 

Currently the M-61 seems to under-perform. According to the docs 6 rounds on a snapshot pass are sufficient to guarantee the shoot-down of a MiG-29 for example.

 

isnt that more of an issue with the damage modeling than the gun, since you can hit areas and it ill do no damage to a plane, at least with flaming cliffs aircraft.

 

So is the Gsh-30 as accurate in the game as it should be, or is it too accurate.

 

i just find it strange that the su-27 and mig-29 piper has a circle and a cross hair inside it, when the bullets always hit right in the middle of the cross hair

[mvsgas]

Talking about M61A1 spread

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=6082

[Flagrum]

Talking about spread

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=117686 (GAU-8 in this case)