MiG-21 Stick/Throttle Button Assignments

[Jetguy06]

Hey guys. I bought the MiG-21 module about a week ago, and I've been having a blast learning how to start up the jet, taxi it, take off, and land. I have select sections from the flight manual printed and in a binder for quick access, including the cockpit layout pictures, and the descriptions of all the in-cockpit switches, knobs, etc., as well as the start-up checklist.

 

I haven't gotten into combat yet, mainly because I don't have all the HOTAS commands programmed yet. I'm using the Thrustmaster Warthog stick and throttle, and I want to program all the things that are on the MiG-21 stick programmed to mine. Here's what's on the MiG-21 stick:

 

Gun Trigger; Trimmer; Autopilot "recovery"; Autopilot disengage; Radar lock-on; Bomb, rockets, missile fire; Gear brake; Fuselage fuel tank jettison.

 

I can't find any of these controls, save for the Gear Brake Lever. The other controls simply aren't on the list, at least, not as listed in the manual.

 

I also can't find the Speed Brake control, or the PTT for the radios on the throttle.

 

Any help is always greatly appreciated. Thanks guys!!

[QuiGon]

Hi, the controls are labeled like this:

 

Gun Trigger: Fire Gun

Trimmer: Trim Pitch Down, Trim Pitch Up

Autopilot "recovery": SAU recovery

Autopilot disengage: SAU cancel current mode

Radar lock-on: Target Lock On

Bomb, rockets, missile fire: Weapon Release

Gear brake: Wheel Brakes / Wheel Brakes Lever

Fuselage fuel tank jettison: Drop Center Fuel Pod

Speed brake: Airbrakes Off, Airbrakes On

PTT: Intercomm menue

 

Hope I could help, so you can really enjoy this awesome module :thumbup:

[Jetguy06]

QuiGon, you, Sir, deserve a medal! Thanks a ton!!

[Jetguy06]

Just a quick question, out of curiosity...

 

In the sim, the controls to elevate or depress the TDC on the radar are the O and L keys, but just out of sheer curiosity, does anyone know how the RL pilot controls the TDC? I'm really simply curious, as there's nothing in the manual, and there doesn't seem to be any controls on the stick or throttle.

 

I'm thinking of mapping them to the slew control on the Thrustmaster Warthog throttle, but only if the RL pilot has a similar control for the TDC.

 

I'm mostly just curious here, and I don't really mind using the O and L keys, as long as the RL pilot didn't have HOTAS(like) controls for it, but I can't figure it out one way or another.

[Zeroskills]

Just a quick question, out of curiosity...

 

In the sim, the controls to elevate or depress the TDC on the radar are the O and L keys, but just out of sheer curiosity, does anyone know how the RL pilot controls the TDC? I'm really simply curious, as there's nothing in the manual, and there doesn't seem to be any controls on the stick or throttle.

 

I'm thinking of mapping them to the slew control on the Thrustmaster Warthog throttle, but only if the RL pilot has a similar control for the TDC.

 

I'm mostly just curious here, and I don't really mind using the O and L keys, as long as the RL pilot didn't have HOTAS(like) controls for it, but I can't figure it out one way or another.

 

I believe you twist the throttle grip.

[Jetguy06]

Ahh... That would make sense... if that's the case, then I don't think it'll hurt the realism too badly if I assign the TDC slew to my slew control on the throttle. Thanks, Zero!!

[QuiGon]

[...]

I'm really simply curious, as there's nothing in the manual, and there doesn't seem to be any controls on the stick or throttle.

[...]

 

I just want to remark that it actually is covered in the manual. Just search the manual for "TDC" and you will find more than just one passage telling you about the twist grip.

For example on page 132 there is a picture of the throttle and the description says: "Throttle rotator (LH63): when used with the radar it moves TDC up/down, when used with the ASP it is used to measure the distance to the target." :book:

[Stealth_HR]

Hi, the controls are labeled like this:

 

Gun Trigger: Fire Gun

Trimmer: Trim Pitch Down, Trim Pitch Up

Autopilot "recovery": SAU recovery

Autopilot disengage: SAU cancel current mode

Radar lock-on: Target Lock On

Bomb, rockets, missile fire: Weapon Release

Gear brake: Wheel Brakes / Wheel Brakes Lever

Fuselage fuel tank jettison: Drop Center Fuel Pod

Speed brake: Airbrakes Off, Airbrakes On

PTT: Intercomm menue

 

Hope I could help, so you can really enjoy this awesome module :thumbup:

 

Thank you, QuiGon, I had a tough time finding the Drop Center Fuel Pod key, as well.

[Jetguy06]

For example on page 132 there is a picture of the throttle and the description says: "Throttle rotator (LH63): when used with the radar it moves TDC up/down, when used with the ASP it is used to measure the distance to the target." :book:

 

The really bad thing is that I have all those charts from the manual that number all the switches and stuff printed out and in a binder, and I've been studying the manual, along with flying the training missions and watching tutorials. I had just never come across that particular picture or excerpt in the manual just yet. But the info is much appreciated!! :thumbup:

 

As a side note, I now have the TDC mapped to the Collie Hat Up/Down, since the slew control on the Warthog throttle is an axis, and can't be assigned to the dual-assigned TDC mapping.

[Buschi]

Hey,

 

can anybody tell me how to open a new thread?

I have just applied but I can not find an Option to open a new thread.

Sorry but I do not know how to ask otherwise.

 

I flew the MiG-21M myself in the past and adjusted now the simulator.

Really a god thing. I have problems with the throttle from HOTAS.

The MiG gears around the X-Axis to the left when give power and to the

right when reducing the power. Any help?

 

Thank your

 

Buschi

[Jetguy06]

Hey,

 

can anybody tell me how to open a new thread?

I have just applied but I can not find an Option to open a new thread.

Sorry but I do not know how to ask otherwise.

 

I flew the MiG-21M myself in the past and adjusted now the simulator.

Really a god thing. I have problems with the throttle from HOTAS.

The MiG gears around the X-Axis to the left when give power and to the

right when reducing the power. Any help?

 

Thank your

 

Buschi

 

One screen previous from this post, where the list of topics is, there is a button right above that list that says, "new thread." If you click that, you can enter a title and the question below that.

 

As far as the roll to the left and right, the MiG-21 only has trim for pitch, so if it starts rolling, you have to manually compensate with the stick. It's a real pain in the behind sometimes, but personally, I like it. It keeps me on my toes knowing that i have to truly "fly" the aircraft from takeoff to touchdown to keep the aircraft in line.

[Art-J]

But the MiG doesn't roll when adjusting throttle. I think Buschi's talking about some problem with the way his HOTAS works. Sounds like an assignment problem - probably aileron axis assigned to his joystick throttle. Buschi, clear all default axis assignments of your controller and configure them according to your needs again.