Slayer_42 Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 Hey there! I have an issue which is stressing me out beyond belief. What I wanted to achieve was to have my vhf hat (T2,3,4,5) which I have assigned as slew controls to also act as my A-10 coolie hat when the paddle switch (S4) is pressed at the same time. Heres how I have the "foxy" statements set up... SLEW COMMAND EXAMPLE (.tmj) BTN T4 /H Slew_Right (.tmm) Slew_Right = / COOLIE HAT (FLAG) EXAMPLE (.tmj) DEF X10 S4 AND T4 BTN X10 /H Coolie_Hat_Right (.tmm) Coolie_Hat_Right = k So what I thought I'd get when pressing right vhf (T4) on its own was a held down / key, and Vhf right with S4 should theoretically produce a held down k key. What I get in key tester when using T4 with S4 as flagged however is this.... DOWN: / DOWN: k DOWN: k DOWN: k DOWN: k UP: / UP: k So effectively im getting key presses from both statements regardless of my flag statement supposedly overriding the Slew_Right command as I had intended. This effects my ability in DCS A-10 in that I am technically unable to hold the coolie hat in a position to change my Sensor Of Interest. Note that this happens with most hats AND buttons. If you made it this far then thankyou for your time, my apologies for not being able to add photos as I wrote this whole thing on a phone :p
Slayer_42 Posted January 22, 2015 Author Posted January 22, 2015 Ok that may have been too hard to understand. Basically what I want is to have a switch perform one function, and the same switch perform a different function only with s4 held in.
BitMaster Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Jusr curious, have you tried putting that in a RAW Format text file. I know this worked with the F22 and F16 TQS Hotas and that way you could program things that the Foxy thing from that swedish dentist couldn't do, it just was colourful and you can use your mouse to do it, apart from that it was always inferior to complex programming the EPROM. This is long ago and I can only hope your EPROM still accepts RAW code programming. You can type your programming on a phone that way too :) Bit Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
BitMaster Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 What you actually need to achieve is a press+hold for one option...and... a modifier-pressed and held + press+hold 2nd key. I was always asking myself if the new Warthog can do this kind of direct programming and even if, would DCS allow to do so, aka understand it and not mess things up. I will get a Warthog soon and find out, I actually do not expect to have RAW code option anymore as most games have their programming inside the game and not outside in an external prog with a EPROM flash sequence before you start your Sim. If RAW still works, it really pays to dig into that. The original Thrustmaster manual had all that listed and explained. If your manual does not say anything about RAW code than it is not available anymore and you can forget what I wrote. Bit Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
BitMaster Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 another idea: does Foxy produce a file that you might be able to open in Notepad++ ??? I assume that Foxy does interpreted your GUI input into RAW code, i.e. a10c.cgr or a10c.f22 whereas .cgr or .f22 should be the file ending. If you can read it in notepad, you most likely look at the raw code that Foxy produced from your GUI settings. It is a good start to look at that file to see how it is done and THEN look at all options RAW provides and then alter and specify more precisely what you want DIRECTLY with notepad. I had many flying pals in the 214th.com and elsewhere that all used my files for TAW. I don't have that file anymore to show you what it looks like but it gets 2nd nature after a few hours programming. Straight logic thinking will give you very good results. Granted that DCS allows this approach. Bit Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Prophet Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) I am not a wiz with Foxy. By default S3 is the modifier using the /I and /O. I believe you can change that with a command to S4 using USE S4 AS SHIFTBTN. What you wrote seems like it should work though. The /H might be confusing it. Try moving the /H to the TMM instead of the TMJ. I know I had to do that with almost everything in the A10C to get the held button commands to work. We didn't have any of those before the A10C. I attached the profile I used for the A10C. I have KA50 commands in the TMM because at one time I intended to make a complete DCS TMM.DCS_A10C.zip Edited January 23, 2015 by =Prophet=
Slayer_42 Posted January 23, 2015 Author Posted January 23, 2015 =Prophet= you are the man! Honestly I thought I was fairly foxy savvy but apparently not, I didnt even realise that the /I, /O modifiers were tied to s3 by default. I remember how long it took me to figure out that /U, /M, /D was dogfight switch related.... EMBARRASSING!!!! :$ you just solved all my problems! And thank you Bitmaster, you lost me at eprom but your help is very much appreciated. Many thanks!
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