DaveRindner Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 I would love to see some Difficult to fly and land aircraft with bicycle gear. YAK-28 or SUD Aviation Vouture. Obviously with AFM/PFM and systems models implemented.
Belgeode Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 Not exactly bicycle gear, but I would love to see the Harrier (both varieties, UK and US). That landing gear always seemed a little sketchy to me. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] YouTube ~ Twitch
effte Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 Did those two types have a reputation for being difficult? There's nothing inherently difficult about a tandem gear arrangement in itself. Depending on the exact design, the procedures can be somewhat unconventional though (but not unique). Cheers, /Fred ----- Introduction to UTM/MGRS - Trying to get your head around what trim is, how it works and how to use it? - DCS helos vs the real world.
DaveRindner Posted January 31, 2015 Author Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) The airmanship for landing bycicle geared aircraft is more demanding. Especcially with crosswinds. Depending on type, and landing g.weight, AC has to touchdown on single main gearstrut, or land such that two point touchdown with bulk of weight on main gearstrut and minor weight on rear gear. With almost no weight on outriggers. If landing in crosswinds, the gear must gimbaled to align with runway. Thats not even addressing one engine landing in Yak-28 and Vouture. Regarding AV-8B and GR-8, YT videos shows short or VTOL landing as being near perfect two point touchdown. Edited January 31, 2015 by DaveRindner
effte Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 There is nothing about a tandem arrangement in itself making it inherently difficult to takeoff and land with - I should know, having a fair number of takeoffs and landings on them. There have been a number of aircraft with a tandem arrangement which had peculiar handling qualities, but that's something else. Then you have the case where both mains of a tandem arrangement are far from the CoG, typically to make room for a bomb bay, making rotation in the traditional sense impossible. The only aircraft I'm familiar with which featured swivelling mains is the B-52, and that's not due to the landing gear arrangement in itself. ----- Introduction to UTM/MGRS - Trying to get your head around what trim is, how it works and how to use it? - DCS helos vs the real world.
BitMaster Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 Well, that might take some years to happen but for NOW: Fly the Bf 109-K4 Make a "10 out of 10" take-off and landings and report back in :) I just placed a nice order on Techdata & Amazon to be able to handle those toe-brake beasts ( Dora, Kurfürst and Bis ). 2000 bucks to be able to land, call me crazy but I am all for it ! Bit Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
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