Pilot skins..

Bearcat · March 3, 2015

Greetings gents! It's been a while.. A few years back I remember that we could alter our pilot skin.. Thewn that option was removed.. I have heard that it is now back.. Can anyone enlighten me on how this is now done.. Before it was done like this but I hear that now it is a little different. I had mangaed to get a pretty decent skin of myself in my cockpit.. I would like to do that again if possible.. Can anyone point me in the right direction..?

Bearcat · March 3, 2015

Anyone?

Mainstay · March 3, 2015

What aircraft?

For example you can find the pilot files of the F-86 in the f-86f.zip file.

Located ;

\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\CoreMods\aircraft\F-86\Textures

Edited March 3, 2015 by Mainstay

Bearcat · March 3, 2015

I will do all of them eventually but I was starting with the P-51. I know where the files are for the P-51 .. and IIRC you had to edit the description file to point to it.. I remember a while back I could do that.. and then they changed it where you couldn't.. I just started to get back into this again and I heard from a squadmate that that option was re added.. I am just trying to figure out the process to do it.. I had a custom pilot skin with a custom helmet and I just can't figure out how to see it..

Edited March 3, 2015 by Bearcat

Bearcat · March 3, 2015

OK guys.. I have been doing some searching.. and I found a few of my old posts on this.. so in case someone else comes along and wants to do this and either forgot like me .. or just does not know here are some links to posts on the subject..

Pilot textures 1

Pilot textures 2

Pilot textures 3

Pilot textures 4 - WWII 15th AF Pilot template in User files by Whiplash822

I still have to figure it all out the right way.. but this is a good place to start.

Bourrinopathe · March 3, 2015

I was trying to change the Su-27 pilot helmet/skin and it's a simple pilot_su.dds variant. (the russian helmet texture alignment tends to be messed up, so there's no point to go hires)

It has to be added to the description.lua in the specific livery folder.

Using pilot_su_whatever.dds, just add this line :

{"pilot_SU_body", 0 , "pilot_su_whatever",false};

There's a pilot_parashut.edm model in the \Bazar\World\Shapes folder which is used for the ejected russian pilots. I have no idea if it could be modified to be livery-specific though (otherwise, it's a common model and texture).

It's the old gen clone pilot ;)

Edited March 3, 2015 by Bourrinopathe

Bearcat · March 3, 2015

I am still trying to figure out how to add my own face to this skin .. does anyone know how to do that or where those default heads are stored? I got the WWII pilot in and working..

Mainstay · March 3, 2015

default heads are stored here

D:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\Bazar\World\textures\P51D.zip

You have two option standard

Whiplash · March 3, 2015

I use the following code in my personal skin description.lua. My P-51 livery uses a custom face, armpatch, uniform, and helmet.

       {"pilot_P51_patch", 0 ,"Pilot_DOW_Patch",false};                                            
{"pilot_P51_helmet_B", 0 ,"pilot_P51_helmet_Whip",false};
{"pilot_P51_body", 0 ,"pilot_WWII_2",false}; 
{"pilot_P51_head_A", 0 ,"pilot_P51_head_WHIP",false}; 

}
name = "[DoW] Miss Fairweather"
ountries = {"USA", "RUS", "FRA", "UKR", "SPN", "NETH", "TUR", "BEL", "GER", "NOR", "CAN", "DEN", "UK", "GRG", "ISR", "ABH", "RSO", "ITA"}
id         = 4 -- USAF Pilot with WWII helmet

Just replace my file names with your custom file names and make sure they are included in the livery folder along with your custom skin and it should work.

Shahdoh · March 3, 2015

Make sure to match up the correct head link with the correct ID.

{"pilot_P51_head_B", 0 ,"pilot_P51_head_b_UNIQUEID",false},

Needs an ID = 5 -- -- Tuskegee airmen head

where as:

pilot_P51_head_A (with the WWII leather helmet) requires ID = 4

We have also found out, that these extra details can create graphic corruptions with other liveries for the same aircraft type that do not have the same "links" in the description lua. Which ever loads up first seems to be fine, but if another skin loads that either has the links in a different order or not at all (like pilot heads and props - rarely used) that aircraft may not load things in the correct spots. What I suggest is a template of the description.lua that has all of these links, in a pre-set order. If it is not a custom file, then it can just point to the default with the "true" argument. Have noticed a problem though when mixing the modern helmets with the leather ones as you can only have 1 and not the other, and have not sorted out how best to handle that just yet.

/salute

Bearcat · March 3, 2015

I use the following code in my personal skin description.lua. My P-51 livery uses a custom face, armpatch, uniform, and helmet.
       {"pilot_P51_patch", 0 ,"Pilot_DOW_Patch",false};                                            
   {"pilot_P51_helmet_B", 0 ,"pilot_P51_helmet_Whip",false};
   {"pilot_P51_body", 0 ,"pilot_WWII_2",false}; 
   {"pilot_P51_head_A", 0 ,"pilot_P51_head_WHIP",false}; 
   
}
name = "[DoW] Miss Fairweather"
ountries = {"USA", "RUS", "FRA", "UKR", "SPN", "NETH", "TUR", "BEL", "GER", "NOR", "CAN", "DEN", "UK", "GRG", "ISR", "ABH", "RSO", "ITA"}
id         = 4 -- USAF Pilot with WWII helmet
Just replace my file names with your custom file names and make sure they are included in the livery folder along with your custom skin and it should work.

OK where did you put your custom files.. in the same folder as the P-51 skin.. with the description.lua file?

Shahdoh · March 3, 2015

Yes, you place your custom skin files in same folder as the description.lua

Whiplash · March 4, 2015

Make sure to match up the correct head link with the correct ID.

{"pilot_P51_head_B", 0 ,"pilot_P51_head_b_UNIQUEID",false},

Needs an ID = 5 -- -- Tuskegee airmen head

where as:
pilot_P51_head_A (with the WWII leather helmet) requires ID = 4

We have also found out, that these extra details can create graphic corruptions with other liveries for the same aircraft type that do not have the same "links" in the description lua. Which ever loads up first seems to be fine, but if another skin loads that either has the links in a different order or not at all (like pilot heads and props - rarely used) that aircraft may not load things in the correct spots. What I suggest is a template of the description.lua that has all of these links, in a pre-set order. If it is not a custom file, then it can just point to the default with the "true" argument. Have noticed a problem though when mixing the modern helmets with the leather ones as you can only have 1 and not the other, and have not sorted out how best to handle that just yet.

/salute

Thank you for explaining this, I have often wondered about the cause of this texture error! So using the false value in place of liveries that don't use a custom texture like you described will fixes this issue completely? what about when the custom skins are used on the same server with the original skins that don't have the false code lines for the face or helmet or whatever. Will this still cause the graphics issue?

Shahdoh · March 4, 2015

First off, they are not false entries, they would be actual entries, but ones that are "normally" read by default. You point them to the default skin name with a value of "true". I know, does not make much sense, but it seems that the first skin to load, sets the standard for the rest. If the first skin your system sees has the links, it expects the others to have them as well and will not use the "default" link like it would if it loaded that one first instead. Vice versa, if the first skin to load utilizes a "default" link, it wont read the custom link in the description.lua.

So, yes, the default skins will create a problem till they are all updated with the extra links.

Have not thoroughly tested this, but I know certain areas are order specific. Cockpit details (pilot/helmet/patches/etc) need to be in the same order from 1 skin to the next or it will swap them on you, again, first one in(that your computer sees) sets the order. Prop animation files, there are 3, are more than likely the same. See my Miss America Too skin for the links needed to customize the animated prop.

In sorting this out, I have fixed the description.luas on 28 aircraft that I have in my mustang racing series. Some are default aircraft, and many customs(helmets/patches/props/etc). Since standardizing the description.luas we have not had 1 texture corruption with anyone using these same skin files on the racing server.

Edited March 4, 2015 by Shahdoh

Shahdoh · March 4, 2015

Here is the corrected/standardized description.lua from my Miss America Too skin:

livery = {
{"P51D_FUZ_FRONT", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_HPMA_Fuz_Front",false},
{"P51D_FUZ_REAR", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_WING_L", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_HPMA_L_Wing",false},
{"P51D_WING_R", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_HPMA_R_Wing",false},
{"P51D_FUZ_FRONT", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_HPMA_Fuz_Front",false},
{"P51D_FUZ_REAR", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_WING_L", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_HPMA_L_Wing",false},
{"P51D_WING_R", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_HPMA_R_Wing",false},

{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_COCPIT_01", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_HPMA_Fuz_Front",false},                  
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_COCPIT_01", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_HPMA_Fuz_Front",false},                 

{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT_10", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_HPMA_Fuz_Front",false},                   
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT_10", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_HPMA_Fuz_Front",false},                  

{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT_01", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_HPMA_Fuz_Front",false},                 
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT_01", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_HPMA_Fuz_Front",false},

{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT-2_10", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_HPMA_Fuz_Front",false},                
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT-2_10", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_HPMA_Fuz_Front",false},               

{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT-2_01", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_HPMA_Fuz_Front",false},
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT-2_01", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_HPMA_Fuz_Front",false},

{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_REAR-2_10", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_REAR-2_10", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},

{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_REAR-2_01", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_REAR-2_01", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},

{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_TAIL_01", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},                 
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_TAIL_01", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},                

{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FIN_01", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},                  
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FIN_01", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},                 

{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_L_001", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},                 
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_L_001", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},                

{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_L_010", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_L_010", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},

{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_L_100", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_L_100", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},

{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_R_001", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_R_001", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},

{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_R_010", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_R_010", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},

{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_R_100", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_R_100", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_HPMA_Fuz_Rear",false},
                                           
{"pilot_P51_patch", 0 ,"pilot_P51_MA_patch",false},
{"pilot_P51_helmet_A", 0 ,"pilot_P51_helmet_MA",false}, 
{"pilot_P51_body", 0 ,"pilot_P51_01_MA",false}, 

{"P51_PROP", 0 ,"p51D_prop_HPMA",false},
{"P51_PROP_2", 0 ,"p51D_prop_blade_HPMA",false},
{"P51_PROP_3", 0 ,"p51D_prop_3_HPMA",false},

{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_COCPIT_01", DECAL ,"empty",true},                           
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT_10", DECAL ,"empty",true},                                
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT_01", DECAL ,"empty",true},
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT-2_10", DECAL ,"empty",true},
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT-2_01", DECAL ,"empty",true},
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_REAR-2_10", DECAL ,"empty",true},
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_REAR-2_01", DECAL ,"empty",true},
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_TAIL_01", DECAL ,"empty",true},
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FIN_01", DECAL ,"empty",true},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_L_001", DECAL ,"empty",true},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_L_010", DECAL ,"empty",true},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_L_100", DECAL ,"empty",true},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_R_001", DECAL ,"empty",true},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_R_010", DECAL ,"empty",true},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_R_100", DECAL ,"empty",true},



}
name = "Miss America Too"
countries = {"USA"}

Compared to stock Voodoo skin with corrected description.lua

livery = {
{"P51D_FUZ_FRONT", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_Voodoo_Fuz_Front",false},
{"P51D_FUZ_REAR", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_WING_L", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_Voodoo_L_Wing",false},
{"P51D_WING_R", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_Voodoo_R_Wing",false},
{"P51D_FUZ_FRONT", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_Voodoo_Fuz_Front",false},
{"P51D_FUZ_REAR", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_WING_L", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_Voodoo_L_Wing",false},
{"P51D_WING_R", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_Voodoo_R_Wing",false},



{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_COCPIT_01", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_Voodoo_Fuz_Front",false},      
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_COCPIT_01", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_Voodoo_Fuz_Front",false},         
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_COCPIT_01", DECAL ,"empty",true},                           



{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT_10", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_Voodoo_Fuz_Front",false},        
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT_10", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_Voodoo_Fuz_Front",false},           
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT_10", DECAL ,"empty",true},                                 

{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT_01", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_Voodoo_Fuz_Front",false},               
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT_01", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_Voodoo_Fuz_Front",false},
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT_01", DECAL ,"empty",true},



{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT-2_10", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_Voodoo_Fuz_Front",false},       
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT-2_10", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_Voodoo_Fuz_Front",false},            
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT-2_10", DECAL ,"empty",true},

{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT-2_01", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_Voodoo_Fuz_Front",false},
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT-2_01", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_Voodoo_Fuz_Front",false},
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FRONT-2_01", DECAL ,"empty",true},

{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_REAR-2_10", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_REAR-2_10", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_REAR-2_10", DECAL ,"empty",true},

{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_REAR-2_01", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_REAR-2_01", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_REAR-2_01", DECAL ,"empty",true},




{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_TAIL_01", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},              
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_TAIL_01", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},               
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_TAIL_01", DECAL ,"empty",true},

{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FIN_01", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},                 
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FIN_01", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},                
{"P51D_BORT_NUMBER_FIN_01", DECAL ,"empty",true},




{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_L_001", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},                
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_L_001", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},              
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_L_001", DECAL ,"empty",true},

{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_L_010", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_L_010", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_L_010", DECAL ,"empty",true},

{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_L_100", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_L_100", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_L_100", DECAL ,"empty",true},

{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_R_001", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_R_001", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_R_001", DECAL ,"empty",true},

{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_R_010", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_R_010", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_R_010", DECAL ,"empty",true},

{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_R_100", 0 ,"p51D_DIF_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_R_100", 2 ,"p51D_SPEC_Voodoo_Fuz_Rear",false},
{"P51D_SERIAL_NUMBER_R_100", DECAL ,"empty",true},

{"pilot_P51_patch", 0 ,"empty",true},                                           
{"pilot_P51_helmet_A", 0 ,"pilot_P51_helmet_voodoo",false},   
{"pilot_P51_body", 0 ,"pilot_p51",true}, 

{"P51_PROP", 0 ,"P51D_prop",true},
{"P51_PROP_2", 0 ,"P51D_prop_blade",true},
{"P51_PROP_3", 0 ,"P51D_prop_3",true},


}
name = "Voodoo AirRace "
countries = {"USA"}

Whiplash · March 4, 2015

Thanks a lot for this info I will play around with this.

Bearcat · March 4, 2015

Thanks guys for your help.. I got it.. So with these updated lua files should I redo the lua files on my P-51 and tghe ones of my squadmates?

Shahdoh · March 4, 2015

Yes, at a minimum, standardize the order of links with each skin in your squad. If you use mine as a template for the order, we will be that much closer to having a standardization. For the most part, I used the most common sequence that I had seen from all the custom skins I have, so not much should have to change. Just remember, if a skin does not have the link for an area, to put it in, point it to the default skin name (will be in 'textures\P-51D.zip) and set the final value to true. See the Voodoo description.lua above for example.

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