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Hello, could someone kindly point me in the right direction for the real world manuals and training programs for the Yak-52 > L-39 > SU-25 track.

 

I found a site selling the L-39 Manual in english and 2 stages of training manuals, I will go that route if I need to, but want the best I can find.

 

I had the Captain Sim L-39 and still have my Fighter Pilot School disk but the original download had a training program and I do not want to install my old FS to find it.

 

For the A-10 I used IRIS T6 and then the Milviz T-38 and managed to get most of real world training up to A10 for it.

 

Is the Virtavia Yak-52 for FSX my only option? YUCK

 

Thanks for your time. Going to get a headstart on training to be ready for L-39 :thumbup:

 

edit NVM on buying, the price was way to high, does Avialogs have anything in english for them?

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Why would U have to "Install" the program to find it? Isn't searching the disk more succinct? unless U have no disk?

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Just a side-note, Russian (and Soviet pilots after a while) are not trained in the Yak-52. The L-29 started an era of all-jet training, which carried onto the L-39 and now the Yak-130. I don't know when the Delfin packed its bags but I would risk a guess that most Grach pilots went from the L-39 to it straight away. You're most likely to find a Yak-52 at the local DOSAAF.

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Why would U have to "Install" the program to find it? Isn't searching the disk more succinct? unless U have no disk?

 

I kept the Captain Sim Fighter Pilot picture CD, but after moving to another country and back to US I think I ditched the L-39 disk which had the training program as I never though I would install the old FS again

 

Just a side-note, Russian (and Soviet pilots after a while) are not trained in the Yak-52. The L-29 started an era of all-jet training, which carried onto the L-39 and now the Yak-130. I don't know when the Delfin packed its bags but I would risk a guess that most Grach pilots went from the L-39 to it straight away. You're most likely to find a Yak-52 at the local DOSAAF.

 

Are you positive, I cant see beginner pilots transitioning straight to a jet even L-29 or Yak-130 without having some two seater prop training first?

 

US is T6 Texan>T38>A10 in most cases (1990's)

 

Here is a link these Russian pilots all have Yak-52 time. http://www.incredible-adventures.com/pilots.html

 

It looks like they probably get the Yak-52 training in the Higher Aviation school prior to the next level school which puts them in L-29,L-39, Yak-130

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From that same link:

 

1982 - 1986: High Air Force Pilot College in Kharkov. Jet types: L-39, MiG-17, MiG-21

 

As you can see, their college experience goes from the -39 to what I assume are MiG-17 and -21 training variants to get soon-to-be fighter pilots a more high-performance jet experience. If you look into Soviet Air Force inventories back then, you will not find the Yak-52. Their time on it is probably at the DOSAAF (ie leisure).

 

While I'm no expert in the matter, I'd risk a guess that both trainers have been in use on their own because, although they're no prop aircraft, they are straight wing jets with very gentle handling characteristics, meaning a rookie can do the job.

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OK, yeah I did see the majority of Soviet pilots probably started in L-29/L-39 with jet powered only training from the start with only a few that may have had Yak-52 flight time prior to jet. (but not required for training) Interesting. I was assuming the Soviet flight training may have been similar like the US required T6 time before jet powered.

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