Lusik Posted May 16, 2015 Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) In interesting lecture given by a Top Gun instructor about simulated dogfights between Indian Su-30s MKI and US fighters. Edited May 16, 2015 by Lusik http://eplatanie.wordpress.com/
Hummingbird Posted May 16, 2015 Posted May 16, 2015 Interesting, but to be taken with a grain of salt - esp. since it seems abit like boasting at times.
Weta43 Posted May 17, 2015 Posted May 17, 2015 Personally - I don't think you're going to see any active service US military spokesperson suggesting on the record that US military equipment wasn't anything but world beating - unless it was to a congressional budget committee ;-) (you could probably swap US in that statement for the country of your choice for that matter...) Cheers.
Emu Posted May 17, 2015 Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) It's odd but the Indian press actually claimed the exact opposite, as is so often the case in these matters and why I never pay any attention to such reports. http://www.livefistdefence.com/2008/11/livefist-column-vishnu-som-first-hand.html Then you have that remark at 8:10 - 28deg/s STR at 20,000ft. No way. Now I remember this is actually an old video that's been uploaded again recently. Edited May 17, 2015 by Emu
combatace Posted May 17, 2015 Posted May 17, 2015 I have heard the video is fake that the man is not a real airforce guy. To support my models please donate to paypal ID: hp.2084@gmail.com https://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Artists/hero2084?referral=hero2084
Backy 51 Posted May 18, 2015 Posted May 18, 2015 The gent is a USAF Weapons Officer and he speaks the truth ... FWIW - Top Gun is a U.S. Navy program. I don't need no stinkin' GPS! (except for PGMs :D) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
SDsc0rch Posted May 18, 2015 Posted May 18, 2015 ahhhh! beat me to it! ^^^ : ) i7-4790K | Asus Sabertooth Z97 MkI | 16Gb DDR3 | EVGA GTX 980 | TM Warthog | MFG Crosswind | Panasonic TC-58AX800U [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Emu Posted May 18, 2015 Posted May 18, 2015 28 degrees per second sustained turn rate at sea level would be impressive. 28 degrees per second STR at 20,000ft would require alien technology.
OutOnTheOP Posted May 18, 2015 Posted May 18, 2015 28 degrees per second sustained turn rate at sea level would be impressive. 28 degrees per second STR at 20,000ft would require alien technology. Or, y'know, a huge amount of thrust, coupled with thrust vectoring and excellent flight control programming. ....oh, wait. :lol: Besides that, 28 degrees/second at what airspeed?
Emu Posted May 18, 2015 Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) Or, y'know, a huge amount of thrust, coupled with thrust vectoring and excellent flight control programming. ....oh, wait. :lol: Besides that, 28 degrees/second at what airspeed? Legacy fighters don't even make that clean with 50% fuel at sea level, and you can include F-15, F-16, F-18, Rafale, Typhoon, MiG-29 etc. in that list. I've even asked guys on F-16.net about this and even they say it's BS. Just to put a final nail in this one, according to 'that guy' the F-22 at 20,000ft has twice the sustained turn rate capability of an F-16 with 50% fuel at 15,000ft. Obviously it must have gravity vectoring as well as mere thrust vectoring. Edited May 18, 2015 by Emu
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