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Hi All,

Very new to the TM Warthog and I am wondering how one can utilize a switch for more than one function. I assume one needs a "modifier" switch or lever. I have been researching how to do this for a few days now and I getting frustrated. Can anyone give me their insights in how to do this?

Many thanks. Especially to those fellows who contribute a lot of hard work for we newbies on the forum.

Pineapple Pete

It is always best to not fly too fast or fly too slow. So I fly half fast. :D

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Don't use target software.

 

Just go inside DCS options and keybinding. Then select the profile of the plane you want to fly. For instance A-10C realistic.

 

Then select modifier. Here you can assign a button to act as modifier or switch.

 

You could set the big latch button (or any other button for that matter) on the warthog joystick as modifier: just add it in the left collumn. Call it Latch or whatever.

 

Your warthog stick is configured for most buttons in the a10-c already so if you now want to bind different keys to already existing button binds do this:

 

Coolie hat up is already set up for setting hud to SOI. But if you want to put wheelbrake on that button as well, go to wheelbrake and doubleclick it in the throttle collumn. Now Hold the latch button on the stick. It will say "Latch" + ... then press coolie hat up without letting go of the latch button. It will then say: latch + Coolie hat up.

 

Now if you press coolie hat up in game you will set hud as SOI. But if you hold latch and then press coolie hat up, your wheelbrake will be activated.

 

You could have also set the latch as "switch" in the right collumn of the modifier page.

 

This acts as a mode button. meaning if pressed once it stays on untill you press it again. But i find it confusing because i never know in what mode i am . latch on or latch off.

 

basically if you use a modifier or switch button you double up on the amount of keybinds you can have on your hotas. If you set up 2 modifier switches you have three times the binds etc.

 

Hope this helps. If you still find this confusing then let me know. I'll try to explain it in a different manner.

Edited by kingpinda
Replaced SPI with SOI
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Many thanks for this. Just to let you know how new I am, what or where is the big "latch button?" I will try this with another button until I figure this "latch button" thing out.

I appreciate your help.

It is always best to not fly too fast or fly too slow. So I fly half fast. :D

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It's the one on the front of the Warthog stick that sticks straight up. Use that one as my modifier also.



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Thank you for that txmtb. Right now I am learning the Warthog with the TF-51. At the same time that I pick up the HOTAS setup, I bought FC3. So my next endeavor will be the F15C. Man the learning curve is steep. Before I got the Warthog, I spent a lot of time stepping from the smoldering aluminum on the left side of the departure runway. The Warthog has already helped that.

I appreciate the help.

It is always best to not fly too fast or fly too slow. So I fly half fast. :D

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Thank you for that txmtb. Right now I am learning the Warthog with the TF-51. At the same time that I pick up the HOTAS setup, I bought FC3. So my next endeavor will be the F15C. Man the learning curve is steep. Before I got the Warthog, I spent a lot of time stepping from the smoldering aluminum on the left side of the departure runway. The Warthog has already helped that.

I appreciate the help.

 

A dedicated rudder pedal will bring even more control if you haven't got one already.

 

I had the saitek rudder, G940 logitech rudder and now am using the MFG crosswind.

 

Boy for that last one you need some serious dough but its freaking awsome!

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Hi kingpinda,

Your help worked and I was able to add a modifier switch (lever.) I am in a bit of a conundrum on how to enable both positions of a switch when the default position of a switch is off and does not appear in the in game controller set up when you select the switch. I hope that makes sense because I barely understand what I just wrote.

I really do search the manuals but I find the DCS manuals more descriptive rather than a how to step by step which is what I need.

Thanks again for your time.

It is always best to not fly too fast or fly too slow. So I fly half fast. :D

Posted (edited)
Hi kingpinda,

Your help worked and I was able to add a modifier switch (lever.) I am in a bit of a conundrum on how to enable both positions of a switch when the default position of a switch is off and does not appear in the in game controller set up when you select the switch. I hope that makes sense because I barely understand what I just wrote.

I really do search the manuals but I find the DCS manuals more descriptive rather than a how to step by step which is what I need.

Thanks again for your time.

 

 

Ok if i understand you correctly, you made a SWITCH. so you added a button in the RIGHT column of the modifier screen.

 

What you need to do now is go to each function you want to use in this switch mode and double click it. then to the right it says modifier. select it and choose the button you made to be switch. Then click in the left bar to enter the throttle or joystick button you want to use when switched to this mode. (offcourse make sure you double clicked in the correct collumn. IE warthog joystick or throttle or gamepad or whatever.

 

The panel would look something like:

 

Action:

IFF antenne switch upper

 

 

 

Key/button ............................ Modifier

Button_4 ................................Button_8

 

 

 

Added modifiers

Button_8

 

 

 

Currently in use

Blank hopefully :)

 

 

 

In my experience however I don't use switches. Just Modifiers. as in the LEFT collumn of the modifier panel. That way I ALWAYS know what i'm doing. button 4 on throttle is autopilot. Unless I press the latch modifier AND button 4. then its brew coffee or somesuch.

 

With SWITCHES you need be aware in what mode you are in. ON or OFF. this could cause some confusion in the heat of battle. but maybe it will work for you they way you want to :)

Edited by kingpinda
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If you are referring to the off position of a toggle switch. Unless it's the A10C then you need to do lua modifications to get the off state to be recognized, the A10C does it for you. Like this tutorial for the Mig-21.



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Posted

I use as "switches" the keys Caps Lock and Scroll Lock to have a visual feedback (LED) of switch state change - not always in the expected way after some re-fly. :)

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I use as "switches" the keys Caps Lock and Scroll Lock to have a visual feedback (LED) of switch state change - not always in the expected way after some re-fly. :)

 

That's a really smart idea! Thanks!

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Don't listen to people who say "do this" or "don't do that" in absolutes. TARGET is finicky but extremely powerful, it may not be for you. I get that it's not for everyone, but it will allow you to do things that you can't do any other way (except maybe Joystick Gremlin). So don't rule it out without checking it out and understanding the pros and cons and what it is capable of doing.

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