Request to russian speakers

[SuperKungFu]

Since rarely any of us visit the russian forum where most of the new features are being discussed (i think), is it possible for someone that speaks russian act as a channel between here and the russian forum- linking some of our request together? I would use www.freetranslation.com but i fear i would just sound like an idiot with some crappy translation of russian. Anyway, a great example of this would be new 3d models. I know there are more important things to fix but the 3d models are directed generally at the 3d makers from the public on that forum. Since most of the new models are submitted to ED by the public from the russian side (i assume its the russian side because i didn't hear anyone making the new 3d models of tanks/weapons from the english forum) this would be a great time to ask for new 3d models of F-15's fuel tank, the F-15 itself, and my favorite the flanker (as usual). And everything else like A-10...etc. I know that's a lot of work but throwing the idea out there to the russian forum won't hurt.

 

Someone who speaks russian can also direct some of the things that needs to be fixed over at the russian forum as well.

[Bublik]

Since rarely any of us visit the russian forum where most of the new features are being discussed (i think)

 

There is hardly any new features disscussions in the Russian forums either.

 

The devs are afraid of being blamed in the future if they said something about a feature they plan to implement and then failed to deliver in the release. So practically nothing is said now. I personally do not understand the point, but it is the way it is :(

[SuperKungFu]

Oh, i didn't know the devs were as quiet there as in the english forum :doh: . Thanks for that info but in the case of 3d models direct at the public is still valid. We can ask for their help to build these models because apparently they are submitting a lot.

[Bublik]

Well ED said many times they are not going to improve the fighters in BS in any way.

 

But, yes, we can try :)

 

Any particular requests right away?

[SuperKungFu]

lol of course the flanker and the F-15 are at the top of my request.

So how would one say this?

Translate:Could anyone create a new 3d model of the Su-27/33 or the F-15 and submit it to ED?

 

Любой мог создать новую 3-ью модель Su-27/33 или F-15 и представить(подвергнуть) это РЕДАКТОРУ?

 

Even though i don't know what it says (just translated through freetranslation.com, i got a bad feeling its not right lol :helpsmilie: ) I'm probably cussing them out as far as i know. And also it should be a longer formal request.

[Bublik]

Translate:Could anyone create a new 3d model of the Su-27/33 or the F-15 and submit it to ED?

 

Любой мог создать новую 3-ью модель Su-27/33 или F-15 и представить(подвергнуть) это РЕДАКТОРУ?

 

That translator is even funnier than babelfish :D

 

It says: "Anyone could create a new 3rd model of Su-27/33 or F-15 and expose it to the EDITOR?"

 

I would say: "Не мог бы кто-нибудь сделать новую 3D-модель Су-27/33 или F-15?"

 

Seriously though, there were around 187 requests "to create new 3rd models of Su-27 and F-15" in the Russian forums already. The answer was "in the next project maybe" IIRC :)

[Force_Feedback]

lol of course the flanker and the F-15 are at the top of my request.

So how would one say this?

Translate:Could anyone create a new 3d model of the Su-27/33 or the F-15 and submit it to ED?

 

Любой мог создать новую 3-ью модель Su-27/33 или F-15 и представить(подвергнуть) это РЕДАКТОРУ?

 

Even though i don't know what it says (just translated through freetranslation.com, i got a bad feeling its not right lol :helpsmilie: ) I'm probably cussing them out as far as i know. And also it should be a longer formal request.

 

Actually it's pretty good, translation of translation: "Anyone could have made a new 3-U [translation nag here, should be 3-д] model su-27/33 [ideally су-27/33] or F-15 and introduce(manipulate into doing) this in REDACTOR"

 

 

Oh, I can be your spy there. They have this 50+ pages long ka-50 thread, with lots of dev replies.

 

My secret name will be: Форс_Фидбак :P

[Bublik]

Oh, I can be your spy there. They have this 50+ pages long ka-50 thread, with lots of dev replies.

 

I didn't find anything interesting in the 70+ Ka-50 thread, it's primarily users requesting features and devs replying "not in this life" :D

 

But probably it's just me, as I am not interested in helos at all.

[SuperKungFu]

ahahaha that translation is funny as hell :megalol:

 

Anyway, when you said "in the next product" for the 3d models, that's probably from the devs right? I know they dont have time to build it but the public might, that why we should spread the word to them. However i know there's a lot of work like lod, damage models...etc.

[TrollDude]

New to this forum. I believe if they just updated the engins on the f-15, and a few other aircraft. it would make a world of differnce. I have often tried to make them look more realistic by recoloring and such, but once in the sim, they look boxy and the color is rather flat. Not shiney at all. Other than that, i really dont have any complaints.

[Witchking]

You know what we need guys....A 3d editor like in IL2 FB. Damn...the LO editor seriously needs attention. Even the flanker 2.5 one was better with placement of objects etc. I hate the freakin icons style in LO. I would prefer a top down view of the object as in Flanker 2.5 for knowing size etc.

[Brit_Radar_Dude]

SuperKungFu has an interesting point about those lucky folks who can speak both Russian and English acting as an interface between the two sides of the Forums.

However I have always wondered about such folks helping out with campaigns and missions. I often see posts (more on UBI, SimHQ etc than here) asking for (example) more MiG29 campaigns or vanilla Su25 missions, etc.

I assume there must be a whole bunch of missions and campaigns in the Russian speaking lockon community websites that non-Russian speakers will never see.

 

I've made the effort in the past to try out missions from Check-Six in French, JaBoG32 in German and AlasRojas in Spanish and can figure out what briefing is telling me to do, but Russian would be impossible.....

[Weta43]

"You know what we need guys....A 3d editor like in IL2 FB"

 

 

YES - OH HEAR HIM E.D. !!!

[SuperKungFu]

Sorry guys, bad news

 

Hi SuperKungFu,

 

I spoke with Igor (director of Eagle) and he provided me the okay to let you know the future of the Su-27 and F-15C in regards to Black Shark. I'm sorry to say that there will be no, zero changes to these aircraft in Black Shark. Aside from the change in near-term product focus, there are some additional reasons that this decision has been made. These additional reasons will be clear in a few months.

 

We realize that you'd like to see some improvements in these aircraft but it's just not in the cards for Black Shark. However, that is not to say that these aircraft will not be revisited down the road in a future product.

 

You are free to share this information with others.

 

Bests,

Matt Wagner

 

So basically if we want to see any improvements to these wonderful birds, especially the models (since that can be influenced by the public), we need to tell the russian public/3d develops to help contribute these models.

[Alfa]

Sorry guys, bad news

 

Well I wouldn't say that this can really be considered "news" SuperKungFu - it has been mentioned many times that the focus of Black Shark is quite exclusively on the flyable Ka-50 and things relating to its implementation, in terms of new 3D models, this would be for other helicopters and ground vehicules.

 

So basically if we want to see any improvements to these wonderful birds, especially the models (since that can be influenced by the public), we need to tell the russian public/3d develops to help contribute these models.

 

I think you misinterpreted Matt's reply - having new 3D models for these would not mean that they would be included in Black Shark....implementing them into the game requires quite a lot of additional work and is beyond the scope of Black Shark.

 

I believe the question of new 3D models for the Su-27 and F-15 is something that will be addressed when a more comprehensive "overhaul" that also involves cockpit/avionics can be made for these fighters - i.e. in a future title where these are more in line with the oveall focus.

 

....just my guess though :) .

 

Cheers,

- JJ.

[GGTharos]

Uhh, suprkungfu, it had been made pretty clear that the focus of Black Shark was ... Black Shark. I'm pretty sure that you already knew that, and Matt's only confirming it.

 

Please don't overreact :)

[SuperKungFu]

yea i knew this is was going to happen, but it didn't hurt to push for it. I never fully got a confirmation from ED that there would be no changes to the Su-27 and F-15, so that's why i posted Matt's reply to others. Since i saw new models for helos and tanks, it was just one final push to ask to throw in a new model but it didn't work out. I guess its all cool though.