SPEKTRE76 Posted October 3, 2015 Posted October 3, 2015 Which Bf-110 would be more appropriate for DCS:WW2? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] NEED DESIGN PROJECTS FOR YOUR CAMPAIGNS? PM ME.
msalama Posted October 3, 2015 Posted October 3, 2015 My vote goes to the G-2. A classic Zerstörer one can use as a groundpounder as well :thumbup: The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
Ala13_ManOWar Posted October 3, 2015 Posted October 3, 2015 The question is quite tricky. Neither of them would fit into DCS right now, we still don't have the map and bomber units to shot down either day or night, fighters would slaughter them and she'll be useful only in ground attack to mod units. Would I like a BF110 DCS module? of course :lol:. Would it be any soon? I don't think so... :( S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice
Charly_Owl Posted October 4, 2015 Posted October 4, 2015 Neither of them. I think we need bombers before that or else they have nothing to shoot at except ground targets. Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Chuck's Guides on Mudspike Chuck's Youtube Channel Chuck's Patreon
Avimimus Posted October 4, 2015 Posted October 4, 2015 No one has ever modelled night combat properly - there was a freeware attempt that failed (Target for Tonight), and there was one commercial product that didn't get out (predecessor to Jane's Attack Squadron). Of course, Americans don't typically care about this (despite the fact that just as many bombs were dropped at night, just as many aircrews were lost, and the night campaign lasted longer) - mainly because it isn't their iconic part of history (the Mighty 8th) and thus they never learned about it. As a result, Americans and Russians generally are dismissive of night combat as uninteresting and simplistic (whereas the opposite is true - it is tactical and complex).
Ala13_ManOWar Posted October 4, 2015 Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) No one has ever modelled night combat properly - there was a freeware attempt that failed (Target for Tonight), and there was one commercial product that didn't get out (predecessor to Jane's Attack Squadron). Of course, Americans don't typically care about this (despite the fact that just as many bombs were dropped at night, just as many aircrews were lost, and the night campaign lasted longer) - mainly because it isn't their iconic part of history (the Mighty 8th) and thus they never learned about it. As a result, Americans and Russians generally are dismissive of night combat as uninteresting and simplistic (whereas the opposite is true - it is tactical and complex).You're right, but the question in first place was "what model would -fit- into DCS", and the answer to the question is neither would fit, right now . When we have the announced Lancaster by VEAO (is still up Pman?) available, or at least an IA one, and Normandy map also available WWII night fighter modelling will be quite a serious proposal I would like to see inside DCS :thumbup:. Sadly, I don' think that's any close. S! Edited October 4, 2015 by Ala13_ManOWar "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice
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Kurfürst Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 A Me410 would be more appropriate. Well what gives, one of those days I actually agree with Milo on something. :thumbup: http://www.kurfurst.org - The Messerschmitt Bf 109 Performance Resource Site Vezérünk a bátorság, Kísérőnk a szerencse! -Motto of the RHAF 101st 'Puma' Home Air Defense Fighter Regiment The Answer to the Ultimate Question of the K-4, the Universe, and Everything: Powerloading 550 HP / ton, 1593 having been made up to 31th March 1945, 314 K-4s were being operated in frontline service on 31 January 1945.
Solty Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 I agree on Me410. Better performer, better suited for the time of the war (late 1944) and has tons of ordnance to use on ground targets if needed. Good overall platform that would bring a lot to the game. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]In 21st century there is only war and ponies. My experience: Jane's attack squadron, IL2 for couple of years, War Thunder and DCS. My channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyAXX9rAX_Sqdc0IKJuv6dA
Meteor2 Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 A Bf 110 G4 with FuG202 or "schräge Musik"... No sim has ever touched this radar equipment for the night, but unfortunately even DCS as the king of sims will probably never do it...:( Hopefully some WWII bombers will see the light within DCS.
MiloMorai Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 Well what gives, one of those days I actually agree with Milo on something. :thumbup: You are mellowing in your old age. Not even your fire and brimstone posts of yesterdays any more.:) As those bemoaning the lack of night fighters, how many will know how to read a 1940s oscilloscope?
fastfreddie Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 You are mellowing in your old age. Not even your fire and brimstone posts of yesterdays any more.:) As those bemoaning the lack of night fighters, how many will know how to read a 1940s oscilloscope? I'd drop $75 on a Me410 no matter which version they put in the game and wouldn't even care if I got shot down by every Mustang, Spit, or P47. It would be an interesting two player craft with that rear gunner position and you know that he would be busy. Yeah night fighting anything but AI bombers may not be the best idea for DCS.
Meteor2 Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 I am quite sure, that the knowledge is there, if a company would like to do the job of bringing a Bf 110 G4 to life. Please have a look at "Fritz Trenkle: Die deutschen Funkmessverfahren bis 1945". Those books are expensive, but one can learn. :smartass: Lets dream about that technology in a sim.
SPEKTRE76 Posted October 6, 2015 Author Posted October 6, 2015 Found this interesting tidbit by Hans H. Jucker, Schwerzenbach, Switzerland compiled: http://www.cdvandt.org/Lichtenstein%20radars.pdf [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] NEED DESIGN PROJECTS FOR YOUR CAMPAIGNS? PM ME.
Friedric Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 For me , both :-) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I/JG53_Friedric
Friedric Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 A Me410 would be more appropriate. :pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly::D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I/JG53_Friedric
SPEKTRE76 Posted October 8, 2015 Author Posted October 8, 2015 Me-410B-2/U4? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] NEED DESIGN PROJECTS FOR YOUR CAMPAIGNS? PM ME.
fastfreddie Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 Me-410B-2/U4? Rather have the U2 than the U4 version personally. BK 5 cannon in the 410 was notoriously inaccurate and only the very best pilots were able to hit anything with it at the ranges they hoped to use it. I think it had like a 2% hit rate but I'd imagine it would depend on the documents available on which version gets made if ever. I think the only 410s left in the world are A1/U2 versions and one is in Britain.
Meteor2 Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 Found this interesting tidbit by Hans H. Jucker, Schwerzenbach, Switzerland compiled: http://www.cdvandt.org/Lichtenstein%20radars.pdf Thanks for sharing this. Has ED ever expressed the possibility to bring 2-seaters or multi-crew planes to live? What seems to be the biggest obstacle to try it?
Pman Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 Rather have the U2 than the U4 version personally. BK 5 cannon in the 410 was notoriously inaccurate and only the very best pilots were able to hit anything with it at the ranges they hoped to use it. I think it had like a 2% hit rate but I'd imagine it would depend on the documents available on which version gets made if ever. I think the only 410s left in the world are A1/U2 versions and one is in Britain. Yeah there is one at Cosford, which I have gone and done reference photos of already. I've got a good relationship with the raf museum. However it greatly depends on the demand for something like a 410 as to if it would get done. Time will tell. Pman
Gooseneck Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 I don't see much point for the Nightfighter, as it's unlikely we'll see any night bomber force soon, but I don't see any point for the Destroyer either, because it would be easy meat for all of the proposed allied fighters.
Meteor2 Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 I don't see much point for the Nightfighter, as it's unlikely we'll see any night bomber force soon, but I don't see any point for the Destroyer either, because it would be easy meat for all of the proposed allied fighters. Agreed. But the advantage of a night-fighter version is, that its a real opponent for (night-) bombers. And that this technology has never been subject of any flight sim, as far as I know. The fighter versus fighter situation has its shortcomings, too. In CloD my favourite is the He 111, which is is cannon fooder, I know. But learning the plane and its technological challenges and possibilities is a very rewarding exercise. So night-fighters with radar and navigation tools for night flying would be a dream (IMHO). :smilewink:
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