About FTNoIR, DCS and Ps3 eye speed/smoothness...

[Ala12Rv-watermanpc]

Hi guys!!...Recently I have made a DIY 3 points clip to use with FTNoIR and point tracker 1.1...Its been a while since I use the face API to play, and ALWAYS had thougt that the "stuttery" paning view was due to the limitations of the API and the 56Hz rate the ps3 eye works in that mode...

 

Well, now that I have tried the point tracker I have realiced that EXACTLY THE SAME STUTTER is happening in that mode no mater how high I set the frame rate for the camera :mad:. This made me think in the past and seek for something I overlooked about all this matter.

 

After some investigation I think I have the answer to my probles...the camera is ALWAYS running at 30fps no matter what I set in FTNIR, and even when FTNIR says its pushing 56/60/75/100/120 or whatever...this is just not true as triying to set a frame rate of 15fps had no effect in the tracking capabilities.

 

The problem is that a long time ago I added the cleye.config (no txt file, so no problems there) to able the advanced mode...but with or without this, the camera still working at 30fps :mad::mad:.

 

The cl-eye test that comes with the driver always runs by default at 30fps but if I raise the the amount it goes up no problems...I can CLEARLY see how it becomes way more smooth and fast even only by setting it at 60fps so it works and there is no problem with camera and its effectively capable of those frame rates.

 

I have tried using other USB ports...nothing1

 

So my answer is...all of you using this combo (FTNOir+ps3 eye) how smooth is camera panning???, I mean, when the game runs at perfect 60fps and you pan with the joy's hat or numeric block, it is buttery smooth but as soon as I use any tracking with FTnoIR even when I set really high fps it is stuttery and exactly the kind of motion you would get at 30fps. I have seen videos of original track IR where it is clear that it is as smooth as the game can achieve and I want that kind of speed/smoothness with FTnoIR (I know I dont have original track IR, but apart of the software and movement precision, in terms of speed and frame rate I dont think FTnoIR with ps3 eye should run that bad and stuttery). So, is this normal????

 

Also I see people talk about using 30/60/100/120fps with FTnoIR+ps3 eye and talk about differences, well, I cant see any difference so there is something wrong in my case...no problems either with tracker configuration, everything is working ok and is well configured, anyway nothing works to make the camera to reach more fps, because Im sure thats the problem here...

 

Any help guys??:helpsmilie:

Edited December 12, 2015 by watermanpc

[Ala12Rv-watermanpc]

No one has problems this kind?? any advice??

[Len62]

I don't use FTnoir myself but if your clip uses IR led's you might want to try out opentrack. It takes a while to get it configured, but it works really well and continues to be updated by the author. Here's a link:

https://github.com/opentrack/opentrack/releases

 

I ditched FTnoir after I discovered opentrack.

[Bob Denny]

I can't tell what OpenTrack does... And it starts out by saying that the face tracking has been removed/disconnected ...???

[Len62]

I can't tell what OpenTrack does... And it starts out by saying that the face tracking has been removed/disconnected ...???

 

Right, face tracking has been disabled in the current build, led clips still work, and the aruco marker system, among others. I use it with the Point Tracker protocol, 3 IR led clip, and PS3 eye camera. You have to scroll back a ways to get to the last stable/release build which was 2.2.

 

It took me a while to get it figured out and info can be hard to come by on using it, but it is worth the effort. Click on the "wiki" link on web site for some further info.

[wormeaten]

You should play a bit with accela filters set up. That is how you set up your smoothness.

[Falcon_S]

About FTNoIR, DCS and Ps3 eye speed/smoothness...

Yesterday i find this:

...anything less than 80FPS is noticeable by users as added lag

Sources:

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=12977.24

http://naturalpointofview.blogspot.ba/p/naturalpoint-statements.html

 

Before this i use my FTNoIR - PointTracker at default 30FPS and 640*480 and I thought all the time that FTNoIR just work as they do and it can not go smoothly as TrackIR.

 

I change my settings (see attachment) and i`m suprised with result. I still can not believe how smoothly it works now.

[Ala12Rv-watermanpc]

Sorry for my delay guys!!, thanks for your replies!!...I just tried Opentrack and all I can say is...........................................WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!...FInally I have a really amazing track ir working!!!...for some weird reason all this time with FTNIR I have never get it to work beyond 30fps...opentrack works all the way to REAL 187fps!!...I have configured it to 640x480 and 75fps and I cant believe how well it works!!!:thumbup:...and the new accella filter is just amazing!!!...

 

I downloaded 2.3-rc.21p4 seems to be working perfect!!

Here is how I have set up my filter, I would love to see your configurantion so I can make it even better!!

 

Many thanks guys!!:thumbup:

[Len62]

Your filter settings look close to mine. It is an amazing piece of software, just takes some work to get it set-up to your liking. 2.3 rc21p6 is solid also.

[Ala12Rv-watermanpc]

Your filter settings look close to mine. It is an amazing piece of software, just takes some work to get it set-up to your liking. 2.3 rc21p6 is solid also.

 

Glad to know it pal!!...yeah, it works great...Im using the ps3 eye at 640x480 at 75fps because I cant see a real improvement by using it at 320x240 at 120fps which I feel weird :huh:...also I have enabled the phisical zoom in the ps3 eye (by rotating the outer lens ring) because I though that there would be more room to determine the points due to the bigger image and same resolution buy Im not sure if it works that way and how you guys use it??I cant find anything about using the zoom or not out there...