TM WARTHOG Force Feedback?

[whiteside]

Has anyone come out with a force feedback joystick that isnt a sidewinderish game stick that gives stick force per G buildup?

 

Stickforce per knot buildup?

 

We need feedback!

 

How about a G suit that compresses with G increase?

The Military has them as I understand.

Will

[98abaile]

You mean control loading? The sidewinder can already do that, it's up to the game to implement it.

[DoctorStrop]

I've been looking into this too, and I found nothing current, unless you spend thousands for a yoke, or make you own.

 

https://vs3.irisdynamics.com/product/idl-20001/

[whiteside]

Yeah Same here. No, I owned a Sidewinder when I was about 18 years old and I was unimpressed. Maybe the software was the issue but I need something robust for a military jet sim.

Thanks

Will

[Berniyh]

I have the Warthog since Christmas and really love the thing as is for planes.

 

For helicopters however it's not perfect. Of course there are people out there modifying it to fit better into that role but that shouldn't be necessary.

 

I think we should ask Thrustmaster to make a force feedback version of the thing.

Or even better, I'd vote for a FFB upgrade.

Since the stick can be removed or replaced, I would keep both the FFB and the normal variant.

 

I'd be willing to invest up to $150 into such a FFB base (yeah, base only) for the joystick (which in fact would be 3/4 of the current one).

[0xDEADBEEF]

I'd be willing to invest up to $150 into such a FFB base (yeah, base only) for the joystick (which in fact would be 3/4 of the current one).

 

Not gonna work out. I have the idea of making one for myself maybe in the future (if I finally find the muse to dig out and relearn cad software. So far just in parts I need (Motor, PSU and controllerboards) I calculate a minimum of 300$. Not including milling/prototyping, and I plan to keep the WH stick. Sure might be done cheaper, but if I ever find/invest the time constructing one, I wanna have proper forces and floor mounting. Like the Op said, nothing sinderwinder like that you place in front of your desk.

In theory its rather simple. 2 Axis gimbal mechanics where you connect two motors and a magnet. Gimbal is essentially a rod, a shaft with bearings, a centerpiece with another shaft (double half actually) and besrings. Two gears for the motors and a proper powersupply. There is a ffb-usb-controllerboard readily available for 150$ Per axis, so no need to develop this (Ultra timesafer).

 

 

I really think its doable, and I'm surprised nobody did it yet ... so, now I finally publicly said it :D Maybe someone is doing it now before I get to do it :megalol:

[TomOnSteam]

Someone needs to make a universal arm that clamps onto ANY joystick shaft. This small arm would be attached to a force feedback gimbal.

 

[Sokol1_br]

Maybe the IRIS FFB actuator can adapt to joystick - is made for Yoke - will be need a kind of gimbal to translate the actuator axis turn and back and fort movements to joystick X, Y.

 

https://vs3.irisdynamics.com/products/

 

Is not "cheap", and initially are only plugin for FSX and X-Plane.

[Berniyh]

Not gonna work out. I have the idea of making one for myself maybe in the future (if I finally find the muse to dig out and relearn cad software. So far just in parts I need (Motor, PSU and controllerboards) I calculate a minimum of 300$. Not including milling/prototyping, and I plan to keep the WH stick. Sure might be done cheaper, but if I ever find/invest the time constructing one, I wanna have proper forces and floor mounting. Like the Op said, nothing sinderwinder like that you place in front of your desk.

In theory its rather simple. 2 Axis gimbal mechanics where you connect two motors and a magnet. Gimbal is essentially a rod, a shaft with bearings, a centerpiece with another shaft (double half actually) and besrings. Two gears for the motors and a proper powersupply. There is a ffb-usb-controllerboard readily available for 150$ Per axis, so no need to develop this (Ultra timesafer).

 

 

I really think its doable, and I'm surprised nobody did it yet ... so, now I finally publicly said it :D Maybe someone is doing it now before I get to do it :megalol:

In the end, it depends on the quality you aim for and the number of device being sold.

 

I'm pretty sure that Thrustmaster could pull this off for $50 per piece, but then it wouldn't be Warthog Quality.

 

I think $150 would be a descent price for such an addon while keeping the quality high.

Thrustmaster makes FFB wheels, I'm pretty sure they could use variants of those controllers to fill in the electronic bits.

(BTW, Fanatec even includes a FFB system in their pedals for the brake, although it's only a vibration motor.)

In contrast to steering wheels, the motors would not need to be super strong, because what I'd want here is "only" a Force Trim system. In the end, the most important aspect is still precision.

 

Edit: Of course, as a one-off build, this will be much more expensive. $300 might be a good range.

[ron533]

Have seen this match??

FFB with COUGAR ... Can be done as you see.

Perfect match.

But with Warthog..... :joystick:

 

 

 

 

original pic from here:

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/460-what-flight-stick-do-you-use/page-4