C-101 update

[MAXsenna]

41 minutes ago, kontiuka said:

I had passed that mission a long time ago.  Maybe it has changed.

EDIT: In fact, I think it has changed because I'm pretty sure, when I flew it, I took off from Novorossiysk.

That must be really long time ago. Are we talking about the same mission? The one you take off in heavy clouds, turn to the right and intercept a radial, then you turn around and fly back over the airport on another radial, (Kutaisi), then land. I bought the C-101 during the first free to play in 2020.

Cheers! 

[kontiuka]

4 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

That must be really long time ago. Are we talking about the same mission? The one you take off in heavy clouds, turn to the right and intercept a radial, then you turn around and fly back over the airport on another radial, (Kutaisi), then land. I bought the C-101 during the first free to play in 2020.

Cheers! 

Ya, I might be confused with Lesson 1 Basis Visual Flight.

[kontiuka]

39 minutes ago, mdtenor22001 said:

I would really appreciate any advice on how to just do the trainings with the voiceovers without failing...just to get the training benefit. Unfortunately, I'm not really familiar with ME and the couple times I've tried,I've just gotten frustrated. So if you could share tips or even miz files, that would be great.

Here is a modded mission that removes that one failure.  I recommend saving the mission in your custom DCS missions folder "... \Saved Games\DCS\Missions" then open it as a regular mission instead of through the training interface.

C-101FA-Lesson-02-Radios+Navaids-2_EN_modded.miz

[mdtenor22001]

Thank you. I had trouble with training mission 2 (vfr flight) but the one that kept failing was training 4 (ifr takeoff).

[kontiuka]

6 minutes ago, mdtenor22001 said:

Thank you. I had trouble with training mission 2 (vfr flight) but the one that kept failing was training 4 (ifr takeoff).

So, were you able to take off in the IFR mission without failing in the mission I gave you?

[mdtenor22001]

Haven't been home yet to try! I will report back. Thank you. (Sorry, posting on my phone I wasn't clear)

[mdtenor22001]

1 hour ago, kontiuka said:

So, were you able to take off in the IFR mission without failing in the mission I gave you?

Yes! Instrument takeoff and SID worked perfectly (and minimal griping by my instructor, but I did not fail).  However, when I tried the ILS approach, i could not ever achieve reception of the ILS. I confirmed my NAV radio was tuned properly (109.75) and I was aligned with the runway.  When I called Kutasi for landing clearance, it directed me to the opposite runway (my understanding is that there is only an ILS approach for RWy07.  Is it possible that the ILS was not broadcasting? I think I did everything right, but I'm going to try it again. I think I got all the instructor prompts along the way.

[mdtenor22001]

Here I am, heading 068, 2000 feet MSL, 5 miles out from Kutaisi, tuned to 109.75. I don't have any ILS needles and the instructor stopped giving any feedback (unless I bank above 30 degrees or exceed 250kts).  I've tried a couple times, same result.

 

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[kontiuka]

32 minutes ago, mdtenor22001 said:

Yes! Instrument takeoff and SID worked perfectly (and minimal griping by my instructor, but I did not fail).  However, when I tried the ILS approach, i could not ever achieve reception of the ILS. I confirmed my NAV radio was tuned properly (109.75) and I was aligned with the runway.  When I called Kutasi for landing clearance, it directed me to the opposite runway (my understanding is that there is only an ILS approach for RWy07.  Is it possible that the ILS was not broadcasting? I think I did everything right, but I'm going to try it again. I think I got all the instructor prompts along the way.

The ILS will only work if the active runway is 07.  But I think I know what's going on here.  It's a bug in DCS, not the mission.  The wind is set up to blow westward meaning you should have been set up to take off into the wind, i.e. to the east.  If that were the case, you wouldn't have taken off into that forbidden zone and you would have ILS on landing.  But because the wind is only 2 kts, DCS is deciding that you can take off and land to the west (for some reason) and that is messing everything up.  Do you want me to adjust the mission so that you takeoff and land in the right direction?

Or you could try editing the wind yourself.  It's very easy but you would have to open DCS as an administrator because the mission file is protected.

Edited Saturday at 08:51 PM by kontiuka

[mdtenor22001]

Happy to report that training 5 (Flight Director) went perfectly, including the ILS, go-around, and visual landing.

I can try to adjust the wind. myself? It just requires choosing "run as administrator" when I launch? (I've never done that.)  So what direction and speed should I set the wind? Sorry to be such a noob.  I figured the ILS, at least, had to do with DCS deciding the active runway was different than the intended ILS runway. (When in doubt, I assume it is a DCS-introduced bug in a mission!)

[kontiuka]

9 minutes ago, mdtenor22001 said:

Happy to report that training 5 (Flight Director) went perfectly, including the ILS, go-around, and visual landing.

I can try to adjust the wind. myself? It just requires choosing "run as administrator" when I launch? (I've never done that.)  So what direction and speed should I set the wind? Sorry to be such a noob.  I figured the ILS, at least, had to do with DCS deciding the active runway was different than the intended ILS runway. (When in doubt, I assume it is a DCS-introduced bug in a mission!)

If you're changing the original training mission, ya, just right-click on the DCS icon and select "run as administrator".  If your just changing my mission, you don't have to do that.

In the mission, just set the wind speed to zero.  No other changes needed.

[mdtenor22001]

Any changes I can do myself to the VFR training mission to get it past the heading bug portion? Thanks so much for all your help! I'll play with the wind here in a bit.

[mdtenor22001]

With the change to the wind, the mission (the edited one you sent me) worked perfectly! ILS was exactly as expected and I took off in the right direction. I think you're right, it sent me off in the wrong direction the first time. Which is why some of the instructions didn't make much sense. This time, all worked exactly right and I passed the first time.

[kontiuka]

22 minutes ago, mdtenor22001 said:

With the change to the wind, the mission (the edited one you sent me) worked perfectly! ILS was exactly as expected and I took off in the right direction. I think you're right, it sent me off in the wrong direction the first time. Which is why some of the instructions didn't make much sense. This time, all worked exactly right and I passed the first time.

Good to hear.  I'll try to take a look at that other mission if I have some time.

[kontiuka]

On 6/27/2025 at 12:53 AM, mdtenor22001 said:

Hi there,

I'm trialing the C-101 and am stuck on training mission #2 at the point where it says to select instrument arrival/departure and set the course, heading, and speed bug. I do all of that and it will not progress beyond that.  Track attached.

Thanks. I can already tell, after 30 minutes, there was a lot of love put into this module!

Oh, this one's a lot tougher.  Hard to decipher the values the logic should be looking for.  It doesn't do a simple check of speed, course, and heading.  I can send you a mission file with the check removed if you want.  Or you can wait for the devs to fix it.

[mdtenor22001]

25 minutes ago, kontiuka said:

Oh, this one's a lot tougher.  Hard to decipher the values the logic should be looking for.  It doesn't do a simple check of speed, course, and heading.  I can send you a mission file with the check removed if you want.  Or you can wait for the devs to fix it.

If it's not too much trouble to remove,that would be awesome. I'd definitely give it a try. But who knows what else is broken? 

[kontiuka]

8 minutes ago, mdtenor22001 said:

If it's not too much trouble to remove,that would be awesome. I'd definitely give it a try. But who knows what else is broken? 

Here you go.  The mission should advance 19 seconds after you're given instructions to adjust the knobs.  The 19 second timer was already there.  I just removed the other stuff.

C-101FA-Lesson-01-Basic_Visual_Flight_EN_modded.miz

[MAXsenna]

5 hours ago, kontiuka said:

But I think I know what's going on here.  It's a bug in DCS, not the mission.  The wind is set up to blow westward meaning you should have been set up to take off into the wind, i.e. to the east.  If that were the case, you wouldn't have taken off into that forbidden zone and you would have ILS on landing.  But because the wind is only 2 kts, DCS is deciding that you can take off and land to the west (for some reason) and that is messing everything up. 

Ah, that makes perfect sense. Good catch!  

[kontiuka]

1 minute ago, MAXsenna said:

Ah, that makes perfect sense. Good catch!  

I remember Twitch streamer ShiftieMover having issues with wind and active runway and it just clicked in my head that this is probably the problem.

[mdtenor22001]

3 hours ago, kontiuka said:

Here you go.  The mission should advance 19 seconds after you're given instructions to adjust the knobs.  The 19 second timer was already there.  I just removed the other stuff.

C-101FA-Lesson-01-Basic_Visual_Flight_EN_modded.miz 27.95 MB · 1 download

You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you so much. I was able to successfully complete the mission with this change. What an amazing series of training missions. Definitely the most in-depth in all of DCS.  I'm also glad I saw your note about the rockets because the rocket training mission was bugged (until I realized I should just select one pylon at a time).  Thank you so much for the support with this. Between the VFR and IFR training, I feel like I know and can fly this aircraft better than almost any of the other ones. Looking forward to trying the campaign.

[MAXsenna]

You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you so much. I was able to successfully complete the mission with this change. What an amazing series of training missions. Definitely the most in-depth in all of DCS.  I'm also glad I saw your note about the rockets because the rocket training mission was bugged (until I realized I should just select one pylon at a time).  Thank you so much for the support with this. Between the VFR and IFR training, I feel like I know and can fly this aircraft better than almost any of the other ones. Looking forward to trying the campaign.

I agree! The training missions for this module exceeds most other modules!

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[mdtenor22001]

I hate to keep reporting bugs with the missions, but I just attempted the Air-to-Air training mission.  After all the instructions completed, I got to the part where it asked to press space bar to leave Active Pause and spawn the bandits.  I did that, the mission unpaused, but no bandits were spawned.  Tried 3x, same results. I plan to try the final IFR training mission tomorrow, now that I feel pretty comfortable in the bird.

[kontiuka]

13 hours ago, mdtenor22001 said:

I hate to keep reporting bugs with the missions, but I just attempted the Air-to-Air training mission.

I tried the mission and didn't have any issues. Can you provide a track?

[mdtenor22001]

2 hours ago, kontiuka said:

I tried the mission and didn't have any issues. Can you provide a track?

I'm not sure what I possibly did wrong last night over and over again, but when I tried it again just now, it worked. The only thing I can think is that I pressed the space bar before he got done talking last night, and this time I waited for a few beats before pressing space.  Worked as intended. Thank you!

[kontiuka]

22 minutes ago, mdtenor22001 said:

I'm not sure what I possibly did wrong last night over and over again, but when I tried it again just now, it worked. The only thing I can think is that I pressed the space bar before he got done talking last night, and this time I waited for a few beats before pressing space.  Worked as intended. Thank you!

Ya, the old space bar trap.  I think it's tripped up people in several modules.