F-16 A, B, C, MLU

[mvsgas]

The Best option would be to Model a Off the Line F-16C Block 25,

 

not to Modern, not to old.

 

The First 4 minutes is a block 25 to 32 "off the line", then it shows the block 40/42

 

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Edited March 29, 2016 by mvsgas

[mvsgas]

 

 

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[sniperwolfpk5]

The devs don't need to search for technical documentations and different blocks. Just read this thread they will find everything here :). That is why f-16 is much popular baby.

[mvsgas]

That is the idea, :)

 

[mvsgas]

Second time I see F-16A mechanics walk between the intake and the external tanks crazy.

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[mvsgas]

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[Flogger23m]

I'd buy an F-16C at FC3 level if a full study sim isn't an option. I'd even buy A variants that had AIM-7 capability such as the Block 20.

[mattebubben]

I'd buy an F-16C at FC3 level if a full study sim isn't an option. I'd even buy A variants that had AIM-7 capability such as the Block 20.

 

Well the F-16A Block 20 is fully Aim-120 capable =P

 

and its not really a early variant ^^.

 

IIRC The Block 20 is more comparable to the Block 50 when it comes to systems and weapons capabilities.

 

For a F-16A that is Aim-7 capable but not Aim-120 capable i think you would be limited to the F-16A Block 15 ADF.

 

But for my mind i would be happy with either a F-16A or F-16C.

 

With a F-16A being either a Block 10, Block 15 (more common) or a block 15OCU if you wanted the most capable F-16A with the old school cockpit.

 

And for a F-16C (or a late F-16) any block Between 25-52 would be ok but my prefered would probably be 30-42.

 

Or a F-16AM Block 20 MLU (that is mostly comparable to a F-16C block 50/52)

 

For me the dream would be 2 F-16s.

 

One earlier F-16A (Block 15 probably)

 

and one later F-16C/AM (F-16C Block 30-50 or F-16AM Block 20 MLU)

Edited March 30, 2016 by mattebubben

[mvsgas]

I'd buy an F-16C at FC3 level if a full study sim isn't an option. I'd even buy A variants that had AIM-7 capability such as the Block 20.

 

That sounds cool.

 

For a F-16A that is Aim-7 capable but not Aim-120 capable i think you would be limited to the F-16A Block 15 ADF.

 

Here is a block 20 AIM-7 capable AFAIK

http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F-16/airframe-profile/4213/

I posted it here

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2679866&postcount=39

Edited March 30, 2016 by mvsgas

[mattebubben]

That sounds cool.

 

 

 

Here is a block 20 AIM-7 capable AFAIK

http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F-16/airframe-profile/4213/

I posted it here

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2679866&postcount=39

 

Its Aim-7 capable yes. (never disputed that)

 

But it can also carry the Aim-120.

 

So its not an early F-16A variant

(since it entered service in the 90s and was Aim-120 capable from day one).

 

And in response to your comment in that other thread (the post you linked)

 

The F-16A Block 20 is a new built aircraft but they are pretty much identical to the F-16AM Block 20 MLU aircraft (that are upgraded from older aircraft)

 

so they both have the new cockpit layout (like a F-16C) and they are both capable of using the LANTIRN targeting pod aswell as advanced weapons (like the Aim-120 or AGM-84)

 

So the F-16A Block 20 and the F-16AM Block 20 MLU are pretty much the same other then that the F16A Block 20 is new built While the AM Block 20 is Upgraded from older F-16As.

 

But as it comes to capabilities they are pretty much the same.

 

And they are both comparable to the F-16C Block 50 when it comes to weapons capabilities etc.

 

The F-16A Block 20s for Taiwan started being delivered in the mid 90s and the last were delivered in 2001 and they were capable aircraft when they were delivered.

 

No less so then the F-16 Block 50/52 that entered service 10 years earlier (in 1991/92)

Edited March 30, 2016 by mattebubben

[mvsgas]

Its Aim-7 capable yes. (never disputed that)

 

But it can also carry the Aim-120.

 

So its not an early F-16A variant

(since it entered service in the 90s and was Aim-120 capable from day one).

 

And in response to your comment in that other thread (the post you linked)

 

The F-16A Block 20 is a new built aircraft but they are pretty much identical to the F-16AM Block 20 MLU aircraft (that are upgraded from older aircraft)

 

so they both have the new cockpit layout (like a F-16C) and they are both capable of using the LANTIRN targeting pod aswell as advanced weapons (like the Aim-120 or AGM-84)

 

So the F-16A Block 20 and the F-16AM Block 20 MLU are pretty much the same other then that the F16A Block 20 is new built While the AM Block 20 is Upgraded from older F-16As.

 

But as it comes to capabilities they are pretty much the same.

 

And they are both comparable to the F-16C Block 50 when it comes to weapons capabilities etc.

 

The F-16A Block 20s for Taiwan started being delivered in the mid 90s and the last were delivered in 2001 and they were capable aircraft when they were delivered.

 

No less so then the F-16 Block 50/52 that entered service 10 years earlier (in 1991/92)

 

Ok, for this specific instance you meant above on updated block 20, you are right AFAIK. And some RCOAF F-16 are comparatively new and more capable that some versions of the block 25 to 52, I agree.

 

As for all block 20/ 20 MLU being the same, I disagree, not all are the same with same capabilities. As mention before ( on this thread), some updated block 20 MLU do not have the new intake and I have not found any documents or pictured of them carrying smart weapons or any of the TGP. Every one of them is different.

 

Anyway, is hard to find photos of F-16 with AIM-7. Egypt is suppose to have them, but I can't find pictures of any EAF F-16 with any missiles, let alone AIM-7.

Edited March 30, 2016 by mvsgas

[mvsgas]

Here is a picture of a block 52 from RSAF with AIM-7. I think is just a demo load for an air show and I do not think they can actually carry them in combat. I do not think RSAF had AIM-120 at the time of this photos, but not sure.

http://www.f-16.net/g3/f-16-photos/album39/album33/608

[Basher54321]

 

Anyway, is hard to find photos of F-16 with AIM-7. Egypt is suppose to have them, but I can't find pictures of any EAF F-16 with any missiles, let alone AIM-7.

 

 

Egypt were supposed to have some of the first production AIM-7 capable F-16s (Block 32) delivered in 1986.

 

This is a Block 40 date unknown:

[mvsgas]

Cool thanks. I love this. I did not even now block 40/42 could carry AIM-7. I read about it before but first picture with them loaded. Learn something every day.

Edited March 30, 2016 by mvsgas

[mvsgas]

This website seems to have a good list of Belgian F-16.

http://www.belgian-wings.be/Webpages/Navigator/Photos/MilltaryPics/post_ww2/Lockheed%20F-16AM/Lockheed%20F16A%20Frontpage.htm

[Basher54321]

Should be more of the ANG birds.

[mattebubben]

Ok, for this specific instance you meant above on updated block 20, you are right AFAIK. And some RCOAF F-16 are comparatively new and more capable that some versions of the block 25 to 52, I agree.

 

As for all block 20/ 20 MLU being the same, I disagree, not all are the same with same capabilities. As mention before ( on this thread), some updated block 20 MLU do not have the new intake and I have not found any documents or pictured of them carrying smart weapons or any of the TGP. Every one of them is different.

 

Anyway, is hard to find photos of F-16 with AIM-7. Egypt is suppose to have them, but I can't find pictures of any EAF F-16 with any missiles, let alone AIM-7.

 

When i say they are mostly identical i mean that they have comparable radar comparable cockpit systems they can carry mostly the same weapons etc.

 

Ofc they are not 100% identical since each airforce has different needs for the aircraft and what they are armed with /can do and it is customised to the needs of each customer.

 

But different Block 20s or Block 20 MLUs are not alot more different then can be said of Block 50/52 depending on nation.

 

And also when it comes to the Aim-7.

 

Please notice i said F-16A with Aim-7 capabillity but no Aim-120 capabillity.

As in a F-16A variant whose only BVR weapon was the Aim-7.

 

There are many F-16Cs that had the Aim-7 before the Aim-120 arrived and that later could use both.

 

But Most of the early F-16As did not carry the Aim-7.

 

And do my knowledge the only Pre MLU Pre Block 20 variant to use the Aim-7 was the F-16A Block 15ADF.

 

(Maby the OCU aswell but it was AIM-120 capable so that would probably have been the OCUs main BVR weapon)

Edited March 30, 2016 by mattebubben

[mvsgas]

Should be more of the ANG birds.

 

Cool, thanks

 

When i say they are mostly identical i mean that they have comparable radar comparable cockpit systems they can carry mostly the same weapons etc.

 

Ofc they are not 100% identical since each airforce has different needs and the aircraft and what they are armed with /can do it customised to the needs of the customer.

 

But different Block 20s or Block 20 MLUs are not alot more different then can be said of Block 50/52 depending on nation.

 

And also when it comes to the Aim-7.

 

Please notice i said F-16A with Aim-7 capabillity but no Aim-120 capabillity.

As in a F-16A variant whose only BVR weapon was the Aim-7.

 

There are many F-16Cs that had the Aim-7 before the Aim-120 arrived and that later could use both.

 

But Most of the early F-16As did not carry the Aim-7.

 

And do my knowledge the only Pre MLU Pre Block 20 variant to use the Aim-7 was the F-16A Block 15ADF.

 

(Maby the OCU aswell but it was AIM-120 capable so that would probably have been the OCUs main BVR weapon)

 

Ok, got it :thumbup:

[Basher54321]

 

And do my knowledge the only Pre MLU Pre Block 20 variant to use the Aim-7 was the F-16A Block 15ADF.

 

 

Yes that is probably correct as far as the A goes - although the only thing stopping it from being on Block 10 from 1980 seems to have been politics.

[mvsgas]

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[mvsgas]

I'm starting to loose track of videos posted :D

http://www.f-16.net/units_article423.html

 

Edited March 31, 2016 by mvsgas

[mvsgas]

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[Danzer]

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Yess, MEMORIES..! I was here in Kyrgyzstan in 2003

Airbase Manas (Ganci Air Base, Home of the 376th Air Expeditionary Wing)

as a Life support sergeant, for the Dutch and Danish F-16's

[Ala12Rv-watermanpc]

Nice stuff guys!! Thanks!!