fitness88 Posted March 16, 2016 Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) When I mentioned in a ticket that it's not possible to know your ground speed as the indicator doesn't go below 90Kmh, I was told by DCS that it's not a bug, it's by design. I still find it strange. Also DCS mentioned that the Mig-29 is a WIP and that a waypoint # indicator is in the works. Edited March 16, 2016 by fitness88
Zag Posted March 16, 2016 Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) you need a velocity higher than 90 Kph for the pitot tube to have enough pressure to measure the airspeed, the A-10 is the same, won't indicate anything less than 50 KIAS so it's not a bug. the pitot tube, as the name implies, is just a tube pointed in the direction of flight with a sensor at the end. With sufficient airspeed, air is rammed into the tube creating air pressure which is measured and used to determine airspeed. for more details, google is your friend :) . Edited March 16, 2016 by Zag [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
fitness88 Posted March 16, 2016 Author Posted March 16, 2016 So I guess you have to eyeball it...what about the other same era planes, do they also have the same no speed below 90?
DarkFire Posted March 16, 2016 Posted March 16, 2016 So I guess you have to eyeball it...what about the other same era planes, do they also have the same no speed below 90? Yes. The minimum number varies slightly but it's the same situation for the Su-27, F-15C etc. etc. If you're concerned then using the F2 view will show your taxi speed. Not sure about the MiG since I don't fly it, but certainly in the Su-27 once you get rolling there's no need to use anything higher than 72% RPM. 71.5% is better. System Spec: Cooler Master Cosmos C700P Black Edition case. | AMD 5950X CPU | MSI RTX-3090 GPU | 32GB HyperX Predator PC4000 RAM | | TM Warthog stick & throttle | TrackIR 5 | Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 4 SSD 1TB (boot) | Samsung 870 QVO SSD 4TB (games) | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit. Personal wish list: DCS: Su-27SM & DCS: Avro Vulcan.
fitness88 Posted March 17, 2016 Author Posted March 17, 2016 Thanks to you both for the info. Would you know where I could get current Mig-29s HUD info. I'm not sure what many of the English symbols represent in the various different modes. They are not Cyrillic script symbols. The manual seems to be outdated and missing a lot of info.
DarkFire Posted March 17, 2016 Posted March 17, 2016 I'd recommend reading the Su-27 flight manual since the HuD symbology is very similar between the two. System Spec: Cooler Master Cosmos C700P Black Edition case. | AMD 5950X CPU | MSI RTX-3090 GPU | 32GB HyperX Predator PC4000 RAM | | TM Warthog stick & throttle | TrackIR 5 | Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 4 SSD 1TB (boot) | Samsung 870 QVO SSD 4TB (games) | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit. Personal wish list: DCS: Su-27SM & DCS: Avro Vulcan.
fitness88 Posted March 17, 2016 Author Posted March 17, 2016 I'd recommend reading the Su-27 flight manual since the HuD symbology is very similar between the two. Is it in the same manual...or is it a separate one? Located?
DarkFire Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 Is it in the same manual...or is it a separate one? Located? It should be under: C/.../DCS World/Mods/Aircraft/Flaming Cliffs/Doc/ Both the Flaming Cliffs 3 and the Su-27 flight manuals are in this folder. It's worth reading from page 47 onwards in the Su-27 flight manual which describes HUD and HDD symbology. The main difference is that in the MiG-29 the head-down-display is only a HUD repeater and doesn't show all the other information that you get in the Su-27 HDD. That being said, the vast majority of the HUD symbology is the same and the Su-27 manual appears to be up to date. System Spec: Cooler Master Cosmos C700P Black Edition case. | AMD 5950X CPU | MSI RTX-3090 GPU | 32GB HyperX Predator PC4000 RAM | | TM Warthog stick & throttle | TrackIR 5 | Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 4 SSD 1TB (boot) | Samsung 870 QVO SSD 4TB (games) | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit. Personal wish list: DCS: Su-27SM & DCS: Avro Vulcan.
fitness88 Posted March 18, 2016 Author Posted March 18, 2016 (edited) It should be under: C/.../DCS World/Mods/Aircraft/Flaming Cliffs/Doc/ Both the Flaming Cliffs 3 and the Su-27 flight manuals are in this folder. It's worth reading from page 47 onwards in the Su-27 flight manual which describes HUD and HDD symbology. The main difference is that in the MiG-29 the head-down-display is only a HUD repeater and doesn't show all the other information that you get in the Su-27 HDD. That being said, the vast majority of the HUD symbology is the same and the Su-27 manual appears to be up to date. Thanks, I'll be doing some reading tonight! EDIT: The one thing I was looking for wasn't in the manual...when you lock up a plane you get some letters on the left side of the HUD indicating whether it's friend or foe, can't find it. Edited March 18, 2016 by fitness88
Ironhand Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 (edited) On the line above ATK, you'll see "A", if he's OK to kill and "ACB", if he's a friendly. (Russian HUD, of course.) Edited March 18, 2016 by Ironhand YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
fitness88 Posted March 18, 2016 Author Posted March 18, 2016 On the line above ATK, you'll see "A", if he's OK to kill and "ACB", if he's a friendly. (Russian HUD, of course.) Thanks Ironhand...is there another code on the HUD if the plane being scanned is neutral or unidentifiable?
DarkFire Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 Thanks Ironhand...is there another code on the HUD if the plane being scanned is neutral or unidentifiable? Pretty sure that launch is authorised against neutral targets, and in the game there's no such thing as an unidentified target, at least as far as IFF is concerned. IFF is assumed to work 100% of the time, unless your target is jamming, at which point you won't get an IFF return until your radar achieves burn-through. System Spec: Cooler Master Cosmos C700P Black Edition case. | AMD 5950X CPU | MSI RTX-3090 GPU | 32GB HyperX Predator PC4000 RAM | | TM Warthog stick & throttle | TrackIR 5 | Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 4 SSD 1TB (boot) | Samsung 870 QVO SSD 4TB (games) | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit. Personal wish list: DCS: Su-27SM & DCS: Avro Vulcan.
fitness88 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Posted March 19, 2016 Pretty sure that launch is authorised against neutral targets, and in the game there's no such thing as an unidentified target, at least as far as IFF is concerned. IFF is assumed to work 100% of the time, unless your target is jamming, at which point you won't get an IFF return until your radar achieves burn-through. I think the term is ambiguous.
DarkFire Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 I think the term is ambiguous. Yes, my bad, I meant ambiguous. In the game, as soon as your radar (or friendly AWACS / EWR) picks up a target it's assumed that IFF is carried out automatically and at infinite distance. System Spec: Cooler Master Cosmos C700P Black Edition case. | AMD 5950X CPU | MSI RTX-3090 GPU | 32GB HyperX Predator PC4000 RAM | | TM Warthog stick & throttle | TrackIR 5 | Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 4 SSD 1TB (boot) | Samsung 870 QVO SSD 4TB (games) | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit. Personal wish list: DCS: Su-27SM & DCS: Avro Vulcan.
fitness88 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) On the line above ATK, you'll see "A", if he's OK to kill and "ACB", if he's a friendly. (Russian HUD, of course.) I was in MP [open conflict or 104th[ having locked up a plane I had "A" above the ATK. I fired a missile, as it left the rack it made a strange noise and then about 100 meters ahead of me it exploded. I did it again and the same thing happened. What was that about? Edited March 19, 2016 by fitness88
Ironhand Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 I was in MP [open conflict or 104th[ having locked up a plane I had "A" above the ATK. I fired a missile, as it left the rack it made a strange noise and then about 100 meters ahead of me it exploded. I did it again and the same thing happened. What was that about? Haven't a clue, since the A2A missiles don't self-destruct. Weirdness of some sort. But it had nothing to do with IFF friend/foe. YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
Seaeagle Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 Thanks Ironhand...is there another code on the HUD if the plane being scanned is neutral or unidentifiable? An IFF interrogation can only have two outcomes - either "friendly" or "unknown". The system can only positively identify a friend - anything else is "unknown" and that can be a hostile, a neutral or even a friendly that for some reason doesn't respond to the interrogation(inoperable, out of range etc). So the "Identify Friend or Foe" is really a stupid name for the device. However, as you know, in the game there are only two sides(coalitions) and IFF is a "generic" function(no risk of someone forgetting to switch it on), so you can be certain that if it doesn't register as a friendly, it must be a hostile.
Ironhand Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 An IFF interrogation can only have two outcomes - either "friendly" or "unknown"... Which is why the ROE can often require visual ID depending on the area and the combatants involved. YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
fitness88 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Posted March 19, 2016 Seaeagle, yes I seem to remember that's how it functioned in my earlier years flying Jane's F/A-18. I thought in the many years that have passed IFF would have been developed to a higher form of interrogation. Ironhand: There was a noticeable loud hum when the missile launched until it self destructed. After this self destructing of my A2A at a target I test fired a missile with no target and it did not explode seconds after launch. On the line above ATK, you'll see "A", if he's OK to kill and "ACB", if he's a friendly. (Russian HUD, of course.) What do the acronyms stand for, ATK, A, ACB? Thanks to you both.
Seaeagle Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 Which is why the ROE can often require visual ID depending on the area and the combatants involved. ....and level of external support(AWACS, GCI). But you are right - even with such assets available, ROE may still(and often did) dictate VID prior to engagement.
Seaeagle Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 Seaeagle, yes I seem to remember that's how it functioned in my earlier years flying Jane's F/A-18. I thought in the many years that have passed IFF would have been developed to a higher form of interrogation. Not really - new sophisticated battlefield management can of course help to better identify contacts by streaming information from different sources and share them via datalink(such as Link 16). But the IFF(device) itself is the same. Basically it transmits a query for which it expects a matching answer, so anything that doesn't recognise the query and respond accordingly will register as an unknown entity.
Ironhand Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 Ironhand: What do the acronyms stand for, ATK, A, ACB? ... ATK: "АТАКА – РНП" РНП - режим непрерывной пеленгации; loosely translates as "continuous direction finding mode" (ATTACK – STT) A: АТАКА, Attack ACB: I'm still trying to find what the letters actually stand for. The "A" suggests that it's also Attack but, if so, the other two letters are qualifiers. YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
fitness88 Posted March 20, 2016 Author Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) ATK: "АТАКА – РНП" РНП - режим непрерывной пеленгации; loosely translates as "continuous direction finding mode" (ATTACK – STT) A: АТАКА, Attack ACB: I'm still trying to find what the letters actually stand for. The "A" suggests that it's also Attack but, if so, the other two letters are qualifiers. I'm assuming ATK and ACB is the English equivalent when enabling avionics language "English" in the options? The Cyrillic script symbols would only appear when disabling avionics language English. If this is so wouldn't ACB be the English translation for the Russian Cyrillic equivalent, whatever that is may be what needs searching. Edited March 20, 2016 by fitness88
Ironhand Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 I'm assuming ATK and ACB is the English equivalent when enabling avionics language "English" in the options? The Cyrillic script symbols would only appear when disabling avionics language English. I don't use the English HUD. Unless my install is screwed up, those should be the Russian abbreviations. YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
fitness88 Posted March 20, 2016 Author Posted March 20, 2016 I don't use the English HUD. Unless my install is screwed up, those should be the Russian abbreviations. I see so what does the English option actually do?
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