some points from DCS ticket feedback regarding the Mig-29...

[Ironhand]

I see so what does the English option actually do?

Sets the HUD to English. It may be that both use ATK. The rest should be different.

 

EDIT: Attached is the English version of the АТАКА – РНП (STT) HUD

Edited March 20, 2016 by Ironhand

[fitness88]

Sets the HUD to English. It may be that both use ATK. The rest should be different.

 

Thanks.

[srky]

I'm assuming ATK and ACB is the English equivalent when enabling avionics language "English" in the options? The Cyrillic script symbols would only appear when disabling avionics language English.

If this is so wouldn't ACB be the English translation for the Russian Cyrillic equivalent, whatever that is may be what needs searching.

"CB" - SV in cyrilic, should be short for "SVOI", meaning "OWN" as in YOUR OWN, as in FRIENDLY.

I'm not a native russian speaker so would be nice if some of our russian members confirm this.

 

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[fitness88]

"CB" - SV in cyrilic, should be short for "SVOI", meaning "OWN" as in YOUR OWN, as in FRIENDLY.

I'm not a native russian speaker so would be nice if some of our russian members confirm this.

 

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What do you think the "A" means by itself...as in ambiguous? Thanks.

[Ironhand]

What do you think the "A" means by itself...as in ambiguous? Thanks.

I've asked in the Russian forum. Waiting for clarification.

[Ironhand]

I've asked in the Russian forum. Waiting for clarification.

 

I've gotten differing responses. But one possibility (and the one I was leaning toward) is: АСВ = Атака Своего (Attacking your own).

 

But I'm also wondering if ACB actually exists at all. As I'm going through the Su-27SK manual, I'm finding no reference to it. There are only references to "A" Ataka - Attack. So I wonder if rather than ACB, there is simply nothing there, if the contact is an unknown. Just wondering out loud.

 

My reasoning is that this text appears not to be telling you that this is an enemy. It is simply telling you that it's OK to attack because this is known to be an enemy. And it's the absence of the command that indicates you have locked an "unknown".

Edited March 22, 2016 by Ironhand

[Seaeagle]

I've gotten differing responses. But one possibility (and the one I was leaning toward) is: АСВ = Атака Своего (Attacking your own).

 

But I'm also wondering if ACB actually exists at all. As I'm going through the Su-27SK manual, I'm finding no reference to it. There are only references to "A" Ataka - Attack. So I wonder if rather than ACB, there is simply nothing there, if the contact is an unknown. Just wondering out loud.

 

My reasoning is that this text appears not to be telling you that this is an enemy. It is simply telling you that it's OK to attack because this is known to be an enemy. And it's the absence of the command that indicates you have locked an "unknown".

 

I think:

 

"ATK" is indicating the radar sub-mode - i.e. STT.

 

"A" is indicating a target lock

 

"ACB" is indicating a target lock on a friendly(as determined by IFF).

 

Again there is not such thing as identification of an enemy - only unknown or friendly.

 

"ПР"(launch authorisation) indicating that the locked target is within launch parameters of the missile.....and would not be issued if the target is determined to be friendly.

[srky]

I've gotten differing responses. But one possibility (and the one I was leaning toward) is: АСВ = Атака Своего (Attacking your own).

 

I think this is it too (for all practical, DCS purposes), no reason to suspect otherwise.

As how much it reflects RL HUD... is open to discussion though.

[Ironhand]

I think:

 

"ATK" is indicating the radar sub-mode - i.e. STT.

 

"A" is indicating a target lock

 

"ACB" is indicating a target lock on a friendly(as determined by IFF).

 

Again there is not such thing as identification of an enemy - only unknown or friendly.

 

"ПР"(launch authorisation) indicating that the locked target is within launch parameters of the missile.....and would not be issued if the target is determined to be friendly.

That is my understanding of it, too, more or less. The "A", according to the real world manual, literally stands for "Attack" (Атака) and it only occurs in reference to a locked target.

 

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As how much it reflects RL HUD... is open to discussion though.

My only question now as well is whether or not ACB actually exists on the real HUD. I can find mention and explanation of all of SeaEagles' references in that manual except ACB.

[fitness88]

Thank you for the info. So an enemy locked up will not have any indicating letters on the HUD, only a friendly "ACB"? What's the letter on the HUD for unknown?

Edited March 30, 2016 by fitness88

[Ironhand]

Thank you for the info. So an enemy locked up will not have any indicating letters on the HUD, only a friendly "ACB"? What's the letter on the HUD for unknown?

Just the opposite. As near as I have been able to tell so far, a locked enemy or unknown (they are not differentiated) is indicated by the letter "A" on the HUD. A locked friendly displays no letter designation on the HUD (in the real world aircraft)--at least I've found no mention of any designation so far. Of course, in the sim, we have ACB displayed, when a friendly is locked.

[Seaeagle]

 

A locked friendly displays no letter designation on the HUD (in the real world aircraft)--at least I've found no mention of any designation so far.

 

Is there a section dedicated to IFF equipment/procedures in the Su-27SK manual? - if there is, then maybe it is mentioned there.

 

If there isn't, then there could be a couple of explanations for that too - either that it was removed from the published version of the manual or that the export version of the Su-27(-SK) isn't supplied with IFF equipment at all.

[fitness88]

Just the opposite. As near as I have been able to tell so far, a locked enemy or unknown (they are not differentiated) is indicated by the letter "A" on the HUD. A locked friendly displays no letter designation on the HUD (in the real world aircraft)--at least I've found no mention of any designation so far. Of course, in the sim, we have ACB displayed, when a friendly is locked.

 

 

So in DCS, ACB confirms only a friendly is locked and 'A' means an unknown is locked which we assume to be an enemy.

[Seaeagle]

So in DCS, ACB confirms only a friendly is locked and 'A' means an unknown is locked which we assume to be an enemy.

 

Yes and in the DCS you can safely assume an unknown to be enemy since only friends and enemies exist and all friendlies will automatically be IFF interrogated and registered as such if you use your radar.

Edited March 30, 2016 by Seaeagle

[Ironhand]

Is there a section dedicated to IFF equipment/procedures in the Su-27SK manual? - if there is, then maybe it is mentioned there.

 

If there isn't, then there could be a couple of explanations for that too - either that it was removed from the published version of the manual or that the export version of the Su-27(-SK) isn't supplied with IFF equipment at all.

Haven't found a section dedicated to IFF. (I am not fluent in Russian and, so, it's nothing I can tell at a glance.) But the HUD diagrams for ATAKA show "A" as one of several possible instructions in that part of the HUD. No mention of "ASB". Also available in that area of the HUD are the instructions: "Ф – afterburner; Г↑ - steep climb up; Г↓ - steep climb down".