[NO ISSUE]The Kurfurst is still unrealistically unstable at the top of a zoom climb

[NineLine]

You are Right ! :thumbup:

 

Nope, wrong again.

[msalama]

It's funny how the peanut brigade crawls out of the woodwork every time you even mention any hardware having to do with WW2, is it not?

 

But what's really sad about it, is that we've been through this countless times already for Red and Blue both. And yet, according to some, no-one ever seems to get it right. Go figure...

[IIIJG52_Otto_]

Nope, wrong again.

 

No my friend, I've been talking with a real Bf-109 pilot, and now I'm sure, .. I'm right about the Bf-109 flight behavior. you will see it in a video coming soon. :music_whistling:

[NineLine]

No my friend, I've been talking with a real Bf-109 pilot, and now I'm sure, .. I'm right about the Bf-109 flight behavior. you will see it in a video coming soon. :music_whistling:

 

Oh I am sure you think you are right, but as we have discussed to death, ED has researched and talked to a couple of pilots, modern and from WWII. I am not sure how you are going to find something that changes all that data and input. But good luck, I look forward to seeing what you think you believe once again.

[msalama]

I'm right about the Bf-109 flight behavior.

 

Chances are you're not. And even if you were, I'm pretty certain you couldn't prove it in an unequivocal way (or near enough) as far as engineering sciences go - which is exactly what you'd have to do, if you wanted something changed.

 

Why is it that the peanut brigade never, EVER, understands this?

[jermin]

Chances are you're not. And even if you were, I'm pretty certain you couldn't prove it in an unequivocal way (or near enough) as far as engineering sciences go - which is exactly what you'd have to do, if you wanted something changed.

 

Why is it that the peanut brigade never, EVER, understands this?

 

I'm wondering whether Willy Messerschmit and Kurt Tank asked their test pilot to prove "in an unequivocal way (or near enough)" that what they observed from test piloting the prototypes of Bf 109 and Fw 190 was true before they rectified their design. :megalol:

 

If the engineering scientist who made the FM of the Kurfurst had designed a piston engin fighter which is one of the most-produced warplanes in history, I would have taken every single word he said. Otherwise, he is only an ordinary aviation fan who know more aeronautical theories than us.

 

It is just ridiculous to neglect the flight report from a pilot who has hands-on experience on the plane while you have nothing.

[NineLine]

while you have nothing.

 

Who has nothing? The ED devs have spent a lot of time and money for documents, travel, etc to research all these aircraft. This is their job to produce the most accurate simulations, they fix errors made when information is supplied to prove they have made a mistake (which are generally coding errors more than anything). They also test and retest these FMs behind the scenes adjusting and tweaking more than most of you will ever know.

 

These FMs wont work without a full compliment of data to supply to them, this isnt older sims/games, these FMs are the most advanced ever created.

 

Again, I and ED will always look at evidence to prove something wrong, but feelings and hunches dont cut it. I have seen nothing in this thread to suggest there is anything wrong with the FM. Period, the end.

[jermin]

Clearly, I was referring to msalama.

 

I totally trust the efforts ED has put into making of these warbirds. Dora now feels much more realistic to fly. And its FM truly is very exquisite.

 

What I don't like is the attitude you respond to players' feedback. In my eyes, you act as if you were the original designer of these warbirds. But I'm sure even the original designers of those planes would never treat pilots' feedback like you do. And that's why they were successful.

 

The same truth lies in the operating of a company. Consider oneself always right won't do him/her any good in the tough world of business. This has been proven with many great titles in the game market.

[NineLine]

Clearly, I was referring to msalama.

 

I totally trust the efforts ED has put into making of these warbirds. Dora now feels much more realistic to fly. And its FM truly is very exquisite.

 

What I don't like is the attitude you respond to players' feedback. In my eyes, you act as if you were the original designer of these warbirds. But I'm sure even the original designers of those planes would never treat pilots' feedback like you do. And that's why they were successful.

 

The same truth lies in the operating of a company. Consider oneself always right won't do him/her any good in the tough world of business. This has been proven with many great titles in the game market.

 

There is no feedback, There is no tracks, not videos, no info on how what you experience differs from the real thing. If you are just arguing with other users now about the FM, then I think this thread is done.