stalhuth Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 Hello guys, anyone of you has problem to hit with magic using the short range radar? I can't hit nothing with radar ON but with radar OFF the magic is very accurate RYZEN 7 1800X 3.5ghz / 32 DDR4 RAM Crucial / Nvidia 2070 RTX EVGA / Samsung SSD 500 GB / Acer XB270H G-Sync / Trackir 5 / Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog / Oculus CV1
nomdeplume Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 The radar does not currently affect the Magic 2 use at all, except for providing an 'in range' cue. Later the Magic seeker will be able to be cued to the radar position, but that functionality isn't available yet. So short answer: nope. Currently, the Magic seeker is boresighted at the "+" symbol on the HUD symbology, near the top. Don't let the radar lock symbol over your target trick you into thinking the Magic is also locked - you need to listen for the seeker tone change, which is currently the only indicator that the Magic has acquired a target.
Azrayen Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 which is currently the only indicator that the Magic has acquired a target. Incorrect. Circle around target (HUD) = Magic lock. Already there. = = = = Later, we may get the triangle (when locks are "synchronised" radar (square) + magic (circle))
QuiGon Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 Hello guys, anyone of you has problem to hit with magic using the short range radar? I can't hit nothing with radar ON but with radar OFF the magic is very accurate Radar ON/OFF makes no difference for Magic performance. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
mattebubben Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 Hello guys, anyone of you has problem to hit with magic using the short range radar? I can't hit nothing with radar ON but with radar OFF the magic is very accurate As others have already stated. Even with the radar on (and a radar lock) you still need to get a boresight lock (putting the target right infront of the seekerhead untill it sees the target) Only difference with having a radar lock is that it gives you range information. When we get the ability to slave the seekerhead to the radar things will be different but atm you always need to put the enemy on the boresight for the missile to see him. and a radar lock does not effect that.
stalhuth Posted June 21, 2016 Author Posted June 21, 2016 As others have already stated. Even with the radar on (and a radar lock) you still need to get a boresight lock (putting the target right infront of the seekerhead untill it sees the target) Only difference with having a radar lock is that it gives you range information. When we get the ability to slave the seekerhead to the radar things will be different but atm you always need to put the enemy on the boresight for the missile to see him. and a radar lock does not effect that. my problem is when I using the boresight the target is locket but I don't have missile tone, I have launch graphic (doble circle and TIRR message) but no launch tone RYZEN 7 1800X 3.5ghz / 32 DDR4 RAM Crucial / Nvidia 2070 RTX EVGA / Samsung SSD 500 GB / Acer XB270H G-Sync / Trackir 5 / Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog / Oculus CV1
Jugdriver Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) (as mentioned above) ATM there is no IR/Radar slave, so even though your radar has a lock and can give you range guidance the IR seeker may or may not be locked on the target (no tone no lock). At the point where you have a radar lock on the target try to maneuver so to position him near the top center of the HUD (the boresight cross not the CCM boresight) and the IR seeker will pick him up and you will get tone. Sometimes If I have visual on the target and have cleared to engage him with IFF I will forgo the radar lock and just lock him with the IR seeker and estimate the range, it keeps his RWR from lighting up with a hard lock. JD AKA_MattE Edited June 21, 2016 by Jugdriver
nomdeplume Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 Circle around target (HUD) = Magic lock. Already there. You're right (of course), dunno why I forgot about that.
mattebubben Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 my problem is when I using the boresight the target is locket but I don't have missile tone, I have launch graphic (doble circle and TIRR message) but no launch tone yes but the TIR message just means you are in range. It does not mean the missile has locked on a target. So just follow the same procedure as you would without having a radar lock. Put the target on the Cross in the upper middle of the hud untill you get a good tone and at that point if you are within range etc launch.
stalhuth Posted June 21, 2016 Author Posted June 21, 2016 yes but the TIR message just means you are in range. It does not mean the missile has locked on a target. So just follow the same procedure as you would without having a radar lock. Put the target on the Cross in the upper middle of the hud untill you get a good tone and at that point if you are within range etc launch. the point cross for the heat seeker lock is because is open beta? I guess the seeker should be the center circle RYZEN 7 1800X 3.5ghz / 32 DDR4 RAM Crucial / Nvidia 2070 RTX EVGA / Samsung SSD 500 GB / Acer XB270H G-Sync / Trackir 5 / Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog / Oculus CV1
jojo Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 the point cross for the heat seeker lock is because is open beta? I guess the seeker should be the center circle That circle only appears when a target is radar locked. You're supposed to put the small square which appears inside it to fly a collision course. It has nothing to do with Magic field of view. You can lock your Magic without radar, but no radar = no circle. Plus, in turning fight, the higher is the "aiming point" in the HUD, the less AoA you have to take to bring it on target. Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi
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