SDsc0rch Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 john chesire, tomcat pilot, recounts an unofficial and unapproved many-vs-many furball between early model F-14s and -15s dogfight of the decade - pilot's account while everyone was trading sea stories afterward in the o'club, a reporter lurking in the shadows listened in and based on what he overheard, published an article... here's the article enjoy! 8) 1 i7-4790K | Asus Sabertooth Z97 MkI | 16Gb DDR3 | EVGA GTX 980 | TM Warthog | MFG Crosswind | Panasonic TC-58AX800U [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
h3pilot Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Thanks for posting! I enjoyed reading them both. Happy flying! ASUS Z170I PRO GAMING | CORE I7 6700K 4.2GHZ | 32GB DDR4 2400MHZ | GEFORCE GTX980Ti 6GB | SAMSUNG 950 Pro M.2 512 GB + MICRON M600 1TB SSD + WD 3TB HD | WIN 10 64BIT
Top Jockey Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 Outstanding thread, very good articles, particularly the detailed one by the reporter! Jets Helis Maps FC 3 JA 37 Ka-50 Caucasus F-14 A/B MiG-23 Mi-8 MTV2 Nevada F-16 C MiG-29 F/A-18 C Mirage III E MiG-21 bis Mirage 2000 C i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB
Hummingbird Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 Great read! As expected the F-15's immediately went into the vertical to try and beat the F-14 as they couldn't match them in the turns :) 1
Top Jockey Posted July 10, 2016 Posted July 10, 2016 Can't remember the EM diagram, but pretty sure the F-15 rates the hell out of the F-14. Slow speed would be a different matter. Indeed. Although I've always had a preference for the Tomcat, until some years ago I believed the Eagle might be a little superior in dogfighting... however reports seam to indicate otherwise. The TF-30 engines were an handicap, however the Tomcat aerodinamics were a big help. Jets Helis Maps FC 3 JA 37 Ka-50 Caucasus F-14 A/B MiG-23 Mi-8 MTV2 Nevada F-16 C MiG-29 F/A-18 C Mirage III E MiG-21 bis Mirage 2000 C i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB
javelina1 Posted July 10, 2016 Posted July 10, 2016 Excellent read, wasn't even aware of this. thanks! MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control
Hummingbird Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 Can't remember the EM diagram, but pretty sure the F-15 rates the hell out of the F-14. Slow speed would be a different matter. In terms of turn rate the F-14 is superior all the way to Mach 0.74, after which point the F-15 starts to take over. On top the F-14 features a better ITR across the board. In short you would not want to turn fight a F-14 in a F-15, instead you would want to take the fight into the vertical where the F-15's superior climb rate would take hold.
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