Doum76 Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 (edited) Greetings guys, I was woundering how super AI/Human the AI were, because they seem to control very well aircrafts in a way we couldn't, on those screenshots, a M-2000C that i tought was going down and ended up killing me because he was in total control of the aircfraft, and tonight happened with a SU-27 which i direct almost, direct hit with my S530 in my M-2000C, also he was in total control and killed me, both i thought i won and went for another target because of the damage, but seems, they counter that :) Well i'Ve seen worse damages, but still, that is still impressive lol Hehe, added 3-4 new shots, i took a few shots in a row too shoe his flying, he went for a perfect turn and leveled up, all that, without any flaps or panels left on his wings? :) He's hell of a pilot. Edited December 6, 2016 by Doum76
Kartoffel Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Greetings guys, I was woundering how super AI/Human the AI were, because they seem to control very well aircrafts in a way we couldn't, on those screenshots, a M-2000C that i tought was going down and ended up killing me because he was in total control of the aircfraft, and tonight happened with a SU-27 which i direct almost, direct hit with my S530 in my M-2000C, also he was in total control and killed me, both i thought i won and went for another target because of the damage, but seems, they counter that :) Well i'Ve seen worse damages, but still, that is still impressive lol The ai uses a SFM (simplified flight model) so the planes they fly are generally better in turning, climbing etc. War is easy and is just like riding a bike. Except the bike is on fire and the ground is on fire and you are on fire and you realise you are in hell :joystick:
Rakuzard Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 To the best of my knowledge, the AI flies with an SFM, in every case. That explains almost all "unusual" maneuvers, overpowered behaviour or even impossible flying states. ;) EDIT: sniped by Kartoffel! - Deutsche Tutorials und DCS Gameplay: youtube.com/Rakuzard | raku.yt/discord -
Kartoffel Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 To the best of my knowledge, the AI flies with an SFM, in every case. That explains almost all "unusual" maneuvers, overpowered behaviour or even impossible flying states. ;) EDIT: sniped by Kartoffel! Rip you! :megalol: :thumbup: War is easy and is just like riding a bike. Except the bike is on fire and the ground is on fire and you are on fire and you realise you are in hell :joystick:
Doum76 Posted August 14, 2016 Author Posted August 14, 2016 The ai uses a SFM (simplified flight model) so the planes they fly are generally better in turning, climbing etc. I suck at BFM or any BVR or WVR, just started this out even though i'Ve been in sims for decades.... i should have one of those planes to help me out :)) :pilotfly::pilotfly:
Nerd1000 Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 The AI use simplified flight and damage models, so this kind of strangeness isn't really out of the ordinary. They also have total omniscience, which is why IR SAMs can shoot you while hiding amongst trees.
Doum76 Posted August 14, 2016 Author Posted August 14, 2016 To the best of my knowledge, the AI flies with an SFM, in every case. That explains almost all "unusual" maneuvers, overpowered behaviour or even impossible flying states. ;) EDIT: sniped by Kartoffel! That's what i tought, but i never had guess that much simplified, that beats the never ending afterburner and looping in close combat :) My reaction was funny though :)
Doum76 Posted August 14, 2016 Author Posted August 14, 2016 The AI use simplified flight and damage models, so this kind of strangeness isn't really out of the ordinary. They also have total omniscience, which is why IR SAMs can shoot you while hiding amongst trees. Well trees doesn't surprise me, it's all a matter of sens, since we can't crash in them in 1.5.4 in helicpter... 2.0 is another story :)
Kartoffel Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 I suck at BFM or any BVR or WVR, just started this out even though i'Ve been in sims for decades.... i should have one of those planes to help me out :)) :pilotfly::pilotfly: Actually right mow the mig29a,g,s and su33 still use a SFM so you could maybe use them! War is easy and is just like riding a bike. Except the bike is on fire and the ground is on fire and you are on fire and you realise you are in hell :joystick:
Doum76 Posted August 14, 2016 Author Posted August 14, 2016 Actually right mow the mig29a,g,s and su33 still use a SFM so you could maybe use them! Used to, until the M-2000C came out... got to admit though it makes nice screenshots :) Wounder if the AI Pilots of those two birds, after seing their damages will bring on diapers on their next flight :) Thanks for the answers guys btw.
Oceandar Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 There's something wrong (or good for its own pilot) with the Mirage damage model. It seem to have great endurance. Sometimes I need more than one missile to make it down... Gam Zeh Ya'avor - King Salomon Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze
Chief1942 Posted August 15, 2016 Posted August 15, 2016 There have been many threads regarding damage models and AI exceptionality. I feel certain ED has heard about it plenty and when that issue reaches the top of their priority list, they will address it. Until then, just know that when you are up against ANY AI aircraft, you have to be perfect because THEY are perfect. Intel i5-4690K Devil's Canyon, GForce TitanX, ASUS Z-97A MB, 16GB GDDR3 GSkill mem, Samsung SSD X3,Track IR, TM Warthog, MFG Crosswind pedals, Acer XB280HK monitor,GAMETRIX KW-908 JETSEAT
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