SandMartin Posted December 28, 2016 Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) Guys, some resources talked about aim-9, agm-65 and agm-88. It is true? And, what max number of bombs can carry f-117 - two or four? Edited December 29, 2016 by SandMartin Мой youtube канал Группа в VK IBM x3200 Tower, i7 9700k, Asus Z390-P, HyperX Fury DDR4 2x16Gb 3466 Mhz, HyperX Savage 480Gb SSD, Asus RTX3070 Dual OC 8G, 32" Asus PG329Q, Creative Sound Blaster AE-5, HyperX Cloud Alpha + Pulsefire FPS Pro + Alloy FPS brown, Track IR 4 PRO + Clip Pro, Warhog HOTAS + CH Pro Pedal + есть руль Logitech G25
Tirak Posted December 28, 2016 Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) The resources you're talking about reference an article that has unclear language, stating that the Nighthawks were working with F-16s. Who was armed with AGM-88s and the whatnot is very unclear in the article, leading to some places assuming that it was the Nighthawks. This as far as everything I know is inaccurate. F-117As can only carry Mk.80 series bombs and their smart derivatives, and only 2. Oh, and also the B61, but that doesn't really count. Edited December 28, 2016 by Tirak
Sweep Posted December 28, 2016 Posted December 28, 2016 The resources you're talking about reference an article that has unclear language, stating that the Nighthawks were working with F-16s. Who was armed with AGM-88s and the whatnot is very unclear in the article, leading to some places assuming that it was the Nighthawks. This as far as everything I know is inaccurate. F-117As can only carry Mk.80 series bombs and their smart derivatives, and only 2. Oh, and also the B61, but that doesn't really count. And BDU-33s AFAIK. Ever read that article about an F-117 pilot accidentally dropping a BDU-33 through a house while sim bombing a town? Not sure on the amount of those, though (2? 4 on one of those rack-things? IDK!). Lord of Salt
Buzzles Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 I did read somewhere there were plans for the F-117 to use the Aim-9, in a drop then fire fashion. I don't have sources, and I don't think it was actually ever implemented. Aside from that, just bombs, two of them. Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here!
mvsgas Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) During my time in Holloman AFB, I never saw AIM nor AGM weapons loaded. Only GBU-10//12/27 and BDU-33. There are several version of these weapons I am not sure how to tell them all apart, but on average, GBU-10 and 12 had the standard MK84/82 and their training body versions (respectively). While the GBU-27 use penetrating bomb body like the BLU-109. On the later years (circa 2007) some enhance GBU where use but I can not remember any GBU-31/38 nor 54. On how many it carry; The F-117 only has two bays, and as large as they seem empty, once a bomb is loaded, it took all the space. Each weapons bay had what we call a "slay", each slay had a mau-12 (or equivalent) in it. The sleds where lower on recovery and kept down for maintenance, raised and lock during launching procedures. BDU-33 where loaded on SUU-20 and IIRC, normally only 4 per suu, and only one suu was loaded, not sure why. Edited December 29, 2016 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
SandMartin Posted December 29, 2016 Author Posted December 29, 2016 During my time in Holloman AFB, I never saw AIM nor AGM weapons loaded. Only GBU-10//12/27 and BDU-33. There are several version of these weapons I am not sure how to tell them all apart, but on average, GBU-10 and 12 had the standard MK84/82 and their training body versions (respectively). While the GBU-27 use penetrating bomb body like the BLU-109. On the later years (circa 2007) some enhance GBU where use but I can not remember any GBU-31/38 nor 54. On how many it carry; The F-117 only has two bays, and as large as they seem empty, once a bomb is loaded, it took all the space. Each weapons bay had what we call a "slay", each slay had a mau-12 (or equivalent) in it. The sleds where lower on recovery and kept down for maintenance, raised and lock during launching procedures. BDU-33 where loaded on SUU-20 and IIRC, normally only 4 per suu, and only one suu was loaded, not sure why. Thanx for answer mvsgas. I heard, that f-117 dont have RWR, is it true? Мой youtube канал Группа в VK IBM x3200 Tower, i7 9700k, Asus Z390-P, HyperX Fury DDR4 2x16Gb 3466 Mhz, HyperX Savage 480Gb SSD, Asus RTX3070 Dual OC 8G, 32" Asus PG329Q, Creative Sound Blaster AE-5, HyperX Cloud Alpha + Pulsefire FPS Pro + Alloy FPS brown, Track IR 4 PRO + Clip Pro, Warhog HOTAS + CH Pro Pedal + есть руль Logitech G25
mvsgas Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) :dunno: Edited December 29, 2016 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Kappi Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 I heard, that f-117 dont have RWR, is it true? Afaik the F-117 shared some avionics with F-16, F-18 and F-15 because of budgets to keep the project secret. Some sources state that it was equipped with the Loral AN/ALR-56M RWR (stated after examinations of the wreckage in Serbia.) ___________________________________________ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Looking forward to it, Belsimtek!:thumbup:
mvsgas Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 Afaik the F-117 shared some avionics with F-16, F-18 and F-15 because of budgets to keep the project secret. Some sources state that it was equipped with the Loral AN/ALR-56M RWR (stated after examinations of the wreckage in Serbia.) ALR-56? Interesting. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Kappi Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 "With regards to RWR, none was installed in the F-117. For one, with how 117 mission planning was done with regards to planning around known fixed threats (didn't care about mobile threats) and how flying the planned black line was paramount, you didn't want guys reacting to what they see on an RWR, and thus messing up the planned routing. But even more importantly, nothing should pop up on an RWR in any kind of tracking mode, otherwise the planning was shite or the stealth technology was. But the biggest reason there was no RWR was that there was no way to incorporate it. RWR antenna of the time were "nubs" that would have to be installed on both sides of the nose and both sides of the tail. This couldn't be done on the 117 airframe without seriously messing with the RCS of the airframe, so none was ever installed, as it was determined it should not be needed." http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=53045 I´m sorry for that fast and not thoroughly posted reply, but it seems I have fallen to bad intel:music_whistling: ___________________________________________ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Looking forward to it, Belsimtek!:thumbup:
mvsgas Posted June 9, 2017 Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) An there it is. Ok thanks. Edited June 9, 2017 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Sierra99 Posted June 9, 2017 Posted June 9, 2017 "With regards to RWR, none was installed in the F-117. For one, with how 117 mission planning was done with regards to planning around known fixed threats (didn't care about mobile threats) and how flying the planned black line was paramount, you didn't want guys reacting to what they see on an RWR, and thus messing up the planned routing. F-117A pilots were some of the best in the Air Force. I say this with authority because I KNOW 2 former F-117 pilots, And I supported F-117As operationally for many years. Flying the "Black Line" was important...But who do you think did their mission planning? Intel? The Pilots knew their missions inside and out and they knew every single threat they were flying against and its capabilities. I have no idea why the F-117 didn't have RWR gear but I know it didn't have anything to do with being afraid the pilot would react to a threat. To imply they couldn't be trusted to take appropriate action if faced with an airborne threat is simply ignorant. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970.
mvsgas Posted June 9, 2017 Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) Like in every aircraft, there where some good pilots flying the F-117, but there where plenty of bad ones. http://www.f-117a.com/texas.html Edited June 9, 2017 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
mvsgas Posted June 9, 2017 Posted June 9, 2017 Those pilots you know, what years did they fly the F-117? Which was their aircraft? I'm not looking for names, just wonder if they where assigned to aircraft 810 from 2004 to 2007. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Sierra99 Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 Those pilots you know, what years did they fly the F-117? Which was their aircraft? I'm not looking for names, just wonder if they where assigned to aircraft 810 from 2004 to 2007. I know for sure one was there in 2001...not sure when he PCSd out. Can't get a hold of second guy....he's out of country flying. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970.
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