Haukka81 Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 Just simple question. I think that 2xmsaa with 1.2pd looks better (no shimmering) than 1.5pd without msaa. But even 2xmsaa will make ground target spotting bit harder. Please just tell me your favorite or your findings :) Oculus Rift CV1 here. Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
M1Combat Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 I used to run 1.8PD with no MSAA. The other day I switched to 8xMSAA and 1.2PD and I feel like I can spot air targets a lot easier. I measured spotting distance to 59.xKM. Also... last night I had the opportunity to do some A2G gun kills with the mirage and they were difficult to spot but not impossible. I don't have the chance to kill too much on the ground with guns in the M2C so I can't say if it was easier or more difficult. I'll likely have a chance to do some work in the BlackShark tonight though and I have a lot more exp. in that. I'll report back if I remember to :). Nvidia RTX3080 (HP Reverb), AMD 3800x Asus Prime X570P, 64GB G-Skill RipJaw 3600 Saitek X-65F and Fanatec Club-Sport Pedals (Using VJoy and Gremlin to remap Throttle and Clutch into a Rudder axis)
Haukka81 Posted February 5, 2017 Author Posted February 5, 2017 Do you use MSAA with PD I will test more soon as my Night shifts are over, 4 nights to go :/ I have 1.3 pixel density now and 2xMsaa + 4xAF and its quite easy to spot ground units. Not tested air targets yet .. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
metzger Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 1.4 PD and 4xMSAA for me. Depends on the textures sun position etc.. I can spot ground targets from around 2.5 3.0 miles with vr zoom(except infantry). Sent from my Redmi 4 using Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
BlackLion213 Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 I'm using PD 1.2 and MSAA 4x, appearance is way better than PD 1.6 and no MSAA that I used to run. Performance is better too. I don't do much A-G, but A-A spotting has been really good with this set-up. In some ways its been easier than when I used a monitor. I find that spotting F-15 sized targets against the sky is quite feasible at 10 nm and missiles at 4 nm. Its more variable spotting against the ground, but still very doable. -Nick
Haukka81 Posted February 5, 2017 Author Posted February 5, 2017 I think that i will get RX480 with 8gb memory. I have 970 4gb now and vram is quiqly used if pd or aa are set too high. But thanks for input. Even 2xmsaa will make huge improvement in visual quality. Shimmering is almost gone. :) Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Cibit Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 I am wondering if I am setting my options too high. 1.8 PD 8X MSAA 4X Anistropic filtering No shadows High Textures and Terrain Textures Medium civ traffic Visibility high No shadows no blur I get nice enough frame rates, 45fps except over big towns. Do you guys use shadows? i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB
metzger Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 I am wondering if I am setting my options too high. 1.8 PD 8X MSAA 4X Anistropic filtering No shadows High Textures and Terrain Textures Medium civ traffic Visibility high No shadows no blur I get nice enough frame rates, 45fps except over big towns. Do you guys use shadows? Hey Cib, I dont find difference with PD more than 1.5 :) Sent from my Redmi 4 using Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
M1Combat Posted February 6, 2017 Posted February 6, 2017 Stick to the topic :) I've tested in the BS and I'm pretty sure that 8xMSAA and 1.2PD makes for easier ground spotting as well. Nvidia RTX3080 (HP Reverb), AMD 3800x Asus Prime X570P, 64GB G-Skill RipJaw 3600 Saitek X-65F and Fanatec Club-Sport Pedals (Using VJoy and Gremlin to remap Throttle and Clutch into a Rudder axis)
Haukka81 Posted February 9, 2017 Author Posted February 9, 2017 Bumb, Now i run PD at 1.3 and 4xMSAA Shimmer is gone when using 4xmsaa , with 2xmsaa there is some shimmer. Now i keep 4xmsaa and go to try diffrent PD levels. Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Verde Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 I lately use PD.10 and no MSAA! Finally I can see contacts, yes it is choppy, but as everybody is familiar with their planes and cockpit visibility is not as important as contacts, i find allround thats the best seting, before that was using PD 1.5 with MSAA 2x. You have to choose U wanna see gauges (that you know anyway) or contacts. I found that even PD 1.1 will not make any improvement on gauges but will hit contact visibility;) As long as ED finds some other solution or makes labels small again that we can use them, there is no alternative. I know this is not the most popular opinion, but give it a go try one week with these settings on missions, and i guess U will agree that those visual hits are minor in comparison with visibility bonus!
Verde Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 Sorry for double post! U can experiment with PD in instant action mission SU-27 interception, For experiment purpuse put PD lower PD than 1.0, u will see contacts crazy clear even missiles them selves, but resolution becomes unbarable, so as i said PD 1.0 and no MSAA!
Haukka81 Posted February 10, 2017 Author Posted February 10, 2017 Yes allready done that. I will stay with some msaa and pd. Too blocky without. Air targets are easy enough to see but i really hate stock textures . Tank's are lost in those textures , too much painted "detail" or noise. If you put tank in field (green or yellow) you will see it easily. The try green Bush / forest tile: it will be lost even quite close :/ So when we get VR only textures ? No painted details, we have 3D grass etc so why paint those in terrain?? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Haukka81 Posted February 10, 2017 Author Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) Do you use MSAA with PD After latest update i cant spot ground targets anymore until very near/ top of them. Same mission as before update, same settings. Looks like now more msaa will make things worse , lack of contrast maybe :/ Anyone with same problem ? Edited February 11, 2017 by Haukka81 Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Verde Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 1.5.5 was super smooth 1.5.6 is really choppy, and fps is lower, i even rolled back to 1.5.5. Stuttering was already in 1.5.6 open beta, why did devs make it stable that way dont know.
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