Bad Idea Hat Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 I'll be rearming my Viggen with BK90s. Thanks guys. I'll tell you in here how everything is doing this weekend. (also, I need to apologize for cursing you guys silently for having a full load of Rb-75Bs that wouldn't activate last night. Turns out the weapons selector is really important, and I am an idiot)
JanTelefon Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 Does anyone know HOW the BK-90 will perform now? Tried it in 2.0 earlier, and it was kinda poo. Just looked like two explosions (when launching two pods).
mattebubben Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) Does anyone know HOW the BK-90 will perform now? Tried it in 2.0 earlier, and it was kinda poo. Just looked like two explosions (when launching two pods). what version did you try? MJ1? MJ2 or mix? I find that the Mix works best. (maby a bit better then it should since it seems to be using a homing type submunition for the MJ2 instead of how it would work like in reality. Though considering how much Fragmentation etc is underperforming in DCS atm id say its fair to make it work in an unrealistic fashion to get realistic results if they cant get realistic results but having it work like it should). But atm i find that MJ1 and MJ2 BK 90s are not that effective (due to the poor Explosive Damage modeling of DCS) but the BK 90 MIX (which has a Mixture of MJ1 HE and MJ2 AP submunitions though as stated the MJ2 submunitions of the MIX version work differently to how they should) is very effective and is capable of taking out convoys of 5-10 vehicles with a single dispenser. I'll be rearming my Viggen with BK90s. Thanks guys. I'll tell you in here how everything is doing this weekend. (also, I need to apologize for cursing you guys silently for having a full load of Rb-75Bs that wouldn't activate last night. Turns out the weapons selector is really important, and I am an idiot) Though i dont know how many servers will be using the Open beta version (since todays patch was only for the Open beta version) so BK 90 still not working on stable. Edited March 31, 2017 by mattebubben
JanTelefon Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 I was using the mix version, and my experience is the same as yours in that MJ1 and MJ2 really aren't effective at all. The Mix BK-90 used in multiplayer in 2.0 however just looked like two explosions. I don't know if that's how the BK-90 is implemented or if it flew into the ground. The ground was flat however, so I doubt it crashed.
mattebubben Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 I was using the mix version, and my experience is the same as yours in that MJ1 and MJ2 really aren't effective at all. The Mix BK-90 used in multiplayer in 2.0 however just looked like two explosions. I don't know if that's how the BK-90 is implemented or if it flew into the ground. The ground was flat however, so I doubt it crashed. how effective was it at destroying the targets?. Since maybe one part of making it "MP friendly" was making it more FPS friendly by reducing the number of explosions and its impact on fps?. Did it destroy the targets you wanted it to destroy or did it just overfly them without any real damage. Since it would be kinda funny (in a sad way...) if they fixed the guidance for MP only for it to break in some other way xD. (Would be pretty typical for DCS though ^.^)
Pikey Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 No, it didnt kill them or have any area of effect. Two large holes in the ground. If this is how the BK90 will be there will be much disappointment. how effective was it at destroying the targets?. Since maybe one part of making it "MP friendly" was making it more FPS friendly by reducing the number of explosions and its impact on fps?. Did it destroy the targets you wanted it to destroy or did it just overfly them without any real damage. Since it would be kinda funny (in a sad way...) if they fixed the guidance for MP only for it to break in some other way xD. (Would be pretty typical for DCS though ^.^) ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING *
Cobra847 Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 No, it didnt kill them or have any area of effect. Two large holes in the ground. If this is how the BK90 will be there will be much disappointment. The BK90 is still just a stop-gap measure. We need to receive custom missile (or.. rather, ordinance) guidance support from ED so that we can properly implement it so that it works for both SP and MP. Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
nullsys Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 No, it didnt kill them or have any area of effect. Two large holes in the ground. If this is how the BK90 will be there will be much disappointment. Great. We waited months to get BK90 in MP, and they're still pointless.
Zarma Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 Strange I get kills with the BK90, just not counted in the MP score table. But I can confirm that infantry and trucks were destroyed. i9 9900k, 64 Go RAM, RTX 4090, Warthog HOTAS Throttle & Stick, Virpil AH64 collective, TPR rudder, MFD Cougar, Trackir 5 Pro, Multipurpose UFC, Alain Dufour's TEDAC and Oculus Rift S (when I want some VR), http://www.twitch.tv/zarma4074 / https://www.youtube.com/user/Zarma4074
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