Invisible RN-24/28 Nukes

[Werewolf1025]

Jumped on a 2.1 server with a buddy and both nuclear weapons appear invisible on my aircraft. The bombs still drop and detonate on impact like normal but were completely invisible to me. My buddy could see them just fine. On 1.5 they appear normal but only on 2.1 this problem occurs.

 

I have removed and reinstalled the Mig-21 as well as ran a full DCS repair with no luck, any ideas how to fix this issue?

[muamshai]

File the bug report in their public bugtracker as well.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=156820

[Frederf]

Please add cockpit control box is present but invisible as well.

[Werewolf1025]

Please add cockpit control box is present but invisible as well.

 

My control box appears fine, and the nuke releases and detonates as usual. The model is just invisible, it seems to be an issue on my end since my buddy said it shows fine.

[kelpie]

I just tested my installation of 1.5.7 and 2.1.1. the Nuke model is there but, as with Frederf, the IAB control box is missing. I also can't get a detonation from the nuke, although that could simply be because I can't see if the switches are in the right position for a drop or not.

 

So far repairing the install hasn't fixed the missing IAB box. Have you tried it for the missing Nuke? :(

 

I just thought of this: Take a look at your Mig21 texture file (it shows as a zip file). Do you see the RN-24 and RN-28 textures there?

Edited August 2, 2017 by kelpie

[Holbeach]

The same question was asked here, but there was never an answer.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=186618

 

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[kelpie]

The same question was asked here, but there was never an answer.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=186618

 

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I remember having this issue before and we had to wait for, then, Leatherneck Simulations to fix it. Since the split there hasn't been much in the way of updates or fixes for these issues by Magnitude. I still fly the plane quite a bit but it does leave me worried about the module. Not so much that there hasn't been an update for a while; but the fact that we've only had silence from Magnitude. :(

[Frederf]

I just tested my installation of 1.5.7 and 2.1.1. the Nuke model is there but, as with Frederf, the IAB control box is missing. I also can't get a detonation from the nuke, although that could simply be because I can't see if the switches are in the right position for a drop or not.

 

So far repairing the install hasn't fixed the missing IAB box. Have you tried it for the missing Nuke? :(

 

I just thought of this: Take a look at your Mig21 texture file (it shows as a zip file). Do you see the RN-24 and RN-28 textures there?

 

My MiG-21_IAB.bmp.dds is present. Maybe it's the model that's missing? My control box is not visible but mousing over the switch positions shows the cursor change to green and the tooltips on mouseover work.

 

I think if the texture wasn't loading you'd just get the digital green camo texture not found texture instead of invisible.

 

Are we testing by making a new mission and adding the weapon manually in loadout? Using an old mission or a saved loadout might be bringing up assets from old versions which are physically impossible to do on a fresh install.

[Werewolf1025]

I just tested my installation of 1.5.7 and 2.1.1. the Nuke model is there but, as with Frederf, the IAB control box is missing. I also can't get a detonation from the nuke, although that could simply be because I can't see if the switches are in the right position for a drop or not.

 

So far repairing the install hasn't fixed the missing IAB box. Have you tried it for the missing Nuke? :(

 

I just thought of this: Take a look at your Mig21 texture file (it shows as a zip file). Do you see the RN-24 and RN-28 textures there?

 

Is this an airstart mig? Try actually loading the nuke on the ground from the re-arm menu. I've noticed if you air start with nukes the control box is missing.

Edited August 2, 2017 by Werewolf1025

[Werewolf1025]

I just thought of this: Take a look at your Mig21 texture file (it shows as a zip file). Do you see the RN-24 and RN-28 textures there?

 

What zip are you referring to? I have the RN-24-PAINT.bms.dds file located inside coremods/aircraft/Mig-21bis/textures/Mig21Bis_Weapons but no weapons listed in the Mig-21 zip

[kelpie]

Is this an airstart mig? Try actually loading the nuke on the ground from the re-arm menu. I've noticed if you air start with nukes the control box is missing.

 

Good call, Werewolf. :thumbup: I just tried it out and sure enough the box popped up. :D

[Frederf]

I'm giving the airplane the RN-X weapon in ME loadout and spawning (as it were) with it. Ramp start, air start, and changing the weapon loadout mid-runtime by ground crew are potentially three entirely different test cases

[kelpie]

What zip are you referring to? I have the RN-24-PAINT.bms.dds file located inside coremods/aircraft/Mig-21bis/textures/Mig21Bis_Weapons but no weapons listed in the Mig-21 zip

 

Yup, that's exactly where I was looking. :P If you have the texture file then it should be showing up (from my understanding). I'll keep looking and researching to see if I can find anything new to help. ;)

 

is it .bms.dds or .bmp.dds? :P Mine is .bmp.

[kelpie]

I'm giving the airplane the RN-X weapon in ME loadout and spawning (as it were) with it. Ramp start, air start, and changing the weapon loadout mid-runtime by ground crew are potentially three entirely different test cases

 

Yeah, I tried all of those scenarios, but the only one that seems to work is to have the ground crew load it after mission start. :smilewink: Seems that the bug affects spawning with the RN no matter where you are. It seems that it has to be loaded by the ground crew in order for the IAB to be visible.

[Holbeach]

The rearm on the ground does the trick.

In the air, there is no panel, but switches 3 and 4 are near handy screen bolts.

The nuke drops and detonates OK.

 

But the big thing for me, is that I don't get instavapourized anymore, which nobody else seems to have suffered.

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[kelpie]

The rearm on the ground does the trick.

In the air, there is no panel, but switches 3 and 4 are near handy screen bolts.

The nuke drops and detonates OK.

 

But the big thing for me, is that I don't get instavapourized anymore, which nobody else seems to have suffered.

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Oh, I'm always vaporised after dropping the bomb. :P I'm just glad I can use it now. :smilewink:

[Werewolf1025]

Yup, that's exactly where I was looking. :P If you have the texture file then it should be showing up (from my understanding). I'll keep looking and researching to see if I can find anything new to help. ;)

 

is it .bms.dds or .bmp.dds? :P Mine is .bmp.

 

Yeah bmp. It was a typo, I have the two files and even had a buddy copy his files over to me with still no luck.

[kelpie]

Yeah bmp. It was a typo, I have the two files and even had a buddy copy his files over to me with still no luck.

 

Ok, thought it might have been a typo but wanted to make sure. :smilewink: I haven't found any more information about this type of problem. Everything points to a texture issue but, as you said, you had a friend copy his files so that's not it.

 

I'll keep looking. Hopefully we'll come up with something.

[Frederf]

Try mousing over where the nuke control box switches should be. I'm getting the cursor changing yellow to green and reading tooltips. The box is "there" but not visible.

 

All the switches in the MiG make a distinct hissing noise. I didn't remember to test if I could hear them flip.

[Holbeach]

Try mousing over where the nuke control box switches should be. I'm getting the cursor changing yellow to green and reading tooltips. The box is "there" but not visible.

 

All the switches in the MiG make a distinct hissing noise. I didn't remember to test if I could hear them flip.

 

They flip and work OK. but don't make a sound.

 

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[kelpie]

Werewolf, do you have any mods or skins installed? I haven't had any luck finding what could be causing the problems but I remember reading that mods can cause problems even if they're not connected to that particular aircraft.

[Werewolf1025]

Werewolf, do you have any mods or skins installed? I haven't had any luck finding what could be causing the problems but I remember reading that mods can cause problems even if they're not connected to that particular aircraft.

 

I do usually run mods but in this case I disabled them all, ran a repair and did a fresh install of the Mig. No such luck.

[kelpie]

I do usually run mods but in this case I disabled them all, ran a repair and did a fresh install of the Mig. No such luck.

 

For me when I come across a persistent problem like that I end up taking a day or 2 and uninstall DCS and reinstall it completely, but that's a bit extreme. :P

 

Have you heard anything from Magnitude\LN about it yet?

[Werewolf1025]

For me when I come across a persistent problem like that I end up taking a day or 2 and uninstall DCS and reinstall it completely, but that's a bit extreme. :P

 

Have you heard anything from Magnitude\LN about it yet?

 

Unfortunately no, uninstalling the base game is the last resort. Right now it wouldn't be worth the time/energy to do so just because of the minor bug. Appreciate all your help so far, I've run out of ideas.