FrankTheSpank Posted January 1, 2007 Posted January 1, 2007 Passing this along from another forum. J-10 Fighter Officially Declassified (29 December 2006) The Chinese state-run media made the first official disclosure of the new-generation indigenous Jian-10 (J-10) fighter aircraft on 29 December 2006, stating that the aircraft had already entered operational service with the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF). The reports were the first official recognition of this top-secret project which first began in the late 1980s. The declassification of the J-10 fighter may also suggest that the aircraft would soon become available for export market. The official government press agency Xinhua News Agency reported on 29 December that the Chinese air force is now equipped with the new-generation J-10 fighter. The report, which cited sources within the PLAAF, indicated that “(PLAAF’s) overall battle effectiveness has been noticeably enhanced after being equipped with the aircraft and through intensive drills and training”. Xinhua also reported that the J-10 fighter is capable of launching precision strike weapons and conducting long-distance offensive operations. According to the report, the PLAAF unit equipped with the J-10 fighter had already reached the initial operational capability (IOC). China Central Television (CCTV) also broadcasted TV footages of the J-10 fighter on 29 December, including the aircraft launching air-to-air and air-to-surface weapons, and receiving aerial refuelling from a H-6 tanker. The J-10 fighter project had remained highly classified since it commenced in the late 1980s. For nearly a decade, photos of this top-secret project have regularly appeared on Internet forums around the world. However, the project was not allowed to be publicised until recently, mainly due to security concerns. It was widely speculated that the much-anticipated J-10 would be revealed in the 2006 Zhuhai Air Show held in November, but the debut was cancelled in the last minute for unknown reason. Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corporation (CAC) is reportedly keen to market the J-10 fighter worldwide as a cheaper next-generation fighter. Many third-world countries in the Middle East, Asia, and Africa may find it an ideal alternative to the expensive high-performance fighters made by US, Europe, and Russia. Pakistan is reportedly in negotiation with China to purchase up to fifty J-10 fighters. Video about it, in Chinese: Supposidly equivalent to a Block 52 F-16. What I want to really see is this "J-13" I've heard about.... Hmmmmmmmm... :music_whistling: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
p_o_d_2_2 Posted January 1, 2007 Posted January 1, 2007 i'll take the raptor or typhoon over any photoshopped J-10/F-22 any day.
Guest RamL Posted January 1, 2007 Posted January 1, 2007 While they will construct it already the sixth generation will be
D-Scythe Posted January 1, 2007 Posted January 1, 2007 The J-13 models look almost exactly like the YF-22/23 prototypes with canards.
Black_Hawk Posted January 1, 2007 Posted January 1, 2007 Um, it much more resembles the MiG-1.44/1.42 (never got the difference between the 2 of them) :music_whistling: 159th GAR LockOnFiles CAW Team
p_o_d_2_2 Posted January 1, 2007 Posted January 1, 2007 i agree with d-scythe, it looks like some of the lockheed designs on this page with canards: http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/planes/q0021a.shtml
Disso Posted January 1, 2007 Posted January 1, 2007 All their fighters look like inbreeds. Anyway, from the videos I've seen, the J-10 looks to be a great performer, with very high instantaneous role rates like the Mirage 2000, unsurprisingly, noting the similar configuration. SU-30MKI F/A-18F ...Beauty, grace, lethality.
Pilotasso Posted January 1, 2007 Posted January 1, 2007 Any links to those videos? (aside from youtube, very low res) If anyone wants to know this plane better heres some interesting reading. http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j10combataircraft1iw4vo3.jpg http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j10combataircraft2mn8hr6.jpg http://img416.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j10combataircraft3ao4ia5.jpg http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j10combataircraft4mv5yh9.jpg http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j10combataircraft5wr5vu4.jpg http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j10combataircraft6tr5bw0.jpg I recommend you print this. Its a good article .
Pilotasso Posted January 1, 2007 Posted January 1, 2007 Any chance of this one to be real? According to the report about the J-10 I posted seems unlikely that china could make a stealth fighter at this time (J-10 is all metal) .
Pilotasso Posted January 1, 2007 Posted January 1, 2007 This is the Russian next gen fighter being developed by Sukhoi, they edited it with Chinese AF markings. The actual russian plane will likely to be very different. Its too ovious this is a clone of the F-22, and that would be a disaster for the russians because their talents and expertise are different than those of the Americans (the same way US refrained from european canard deltas). They will come forward with another design Im sure. The plane I posted on my previous post seems a likely design for the chinese (a natural evelution from the J-10), though its reportedly way ahead of their tool/material machining capabilities right now. .
Pilotasso Posted January 1, 2007 Posted January 1, 2007 LOL I have observed the "new russian design" closely. check this out! :lol: .
D-Scythe Posted January 1, 2007 Posted January 1, 2007 Um, it much more resembles the MiG-1.44/1.42 (never got the difference between the 2 of them) :music_whistling: Which incidentally is a rip off of the Eurofighter and F-22. All the designs posted here seem to be like "Eastern-ized" Raptors.
Pilotasso Posted January 1, 2007 Posted January 1, 2007 this is Russia's next gen fighter according to Flight International :D Funny design, the engines pertruding at the back would make the stealth airframe useless. Take it with a grain of salt ;) .
ED Team Chizh Posted January 1, 2007 ED Team Posted January 1, 2007 Any chance of this one to be real?... It is a 3D artist's fake. http://forum.lockon.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=3780&d=1135536248 Единственный урок, который можно извлечь из истории, состоит в том, что люди не извлекают из истории никаких уроков. (С) Джордж Бернард Шоу
FrankTheSpank Posted January 1, 2007 Author Posted January 1, 2007 Just wait until Japan is able to make military weapons, they already have some prototypes: :P [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
p_o_d_2_2 Posted January 1, 2007 Posted January 1, 2007 ^ lol, nice. i could see that beating up on raptors and eurofighters.
nscode Posted January 1, 2007 Posted January 1, 2007 Which incidentally is a rip off of the Eurofighter and F-22. All the designs posted here seem to be like "Eastern-ized" Raptors. Yes. And so is A380. I also hear that Cessna is also about to release a new model and that is expected to be very similar to F-22. Actually, if you look at the wright flyer closely, you can see that it is based on a early Raptor prototype too. Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
D-Scythe Posted January 1, 2007 Posted January 1, 2007 Yes. And so is A380. I also hear that Cessna is also about to release a new model and that is expected to be very similar to F-22. Actually, if you look at the wright flyer closely, you can see that it is based on a early Raptor prototype too. Yeah, the similarities are subtle. I can see why you might be confused.
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