blast Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Hi, Does the force feedback supposed to work with the M2000? The FF option is activated in the setting menu but nothing. Did i miss something?
myHelljumper Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 FBW plane don't have any feedback in the stick but you should have stick centering. Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA
Sephyrius Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 Can confirm that centering works. I faintly recall having felt the FFB effects of stalling the Mirage in the past, but doesn't seem to be the case. Or, well, it handles so ridiculously well that I had trouble stalling it just now even at max-stick high-AoA turns at a snail pace of 100. Haven't flown the mirage in months, is that actually authentic? Feels like the kind of things you'd see in FC3 FMs, maybe I've just been flying choppers and the Viggen for too long.
myHelljumper Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 You can search for fly by wire on Google to see how you control the mirage, this might answer some of your question. And yes the "on rail" feel is realistic. Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA
Oceandar Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 It feels far more agile even with centering tank in swffb compared to my X52. I love it :D Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze
blast Posted September 15, 2017 Author Posted September 15, 2017 Actually my question concerned the rumble or the vibration (i don't know how you call it). For example when we are on the runway or when we shot a missile is it possible to have vibrations effects?
Ramsay Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) Actually my question concerned the rumble or the vibration (i don't know how you call it). DCS FFB usually models 'stick' forces, not ambient FX or cockpit vibration. So... L-39 stick gets stiffer with increased aerodynamic forces, vibrates due to buffet/mech linkage, etc. Huey FFB cyclic centring force goes 'slack' if artificial 'stick feel' is disabled in the cockpit F-86 has a spring cartridge and hyd controls so no buffet feedback The Mirage fly by wire doesn't have direct linkage to the control surface. I'm not sure if it's stick or pedals have a artificial 'stick shaker' but none is modelled. For example when we are on the runway or when we shot a missile is it possible to have vibrations effects? AFAIK the accepted way to get taxi roll vibrations, etc. in DCS is to use SimShaker with something like a Gametrix vibrating chair/cushion. SimShaker then uses data from DCS to drive the seat vibrations. General ... It uses data like speed, gear position, engine state and many more directly from the simulation which enables us to create very precise and distinguishable feedback. Edited September 17, 2017 by Ramsay Correct error - SimShaker use data from DCS to drive vibration FX i9 9900K @4.8GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 11 Pro x64, Odyssey G93SC 5120X1440
blast Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 DCS FFB usually models 'stick' forces, not ambient FX or cockpit vibration. It answers my question. Too lame that DCS doesnt allow such effects. AFAIK the accepted way to get taxi roll vibrations, etc. in DCS is to use SimShaker with something like a Gametrix vibrating chair/cushion. SimShaker then uses data from DCS to drive the seat vibrations. I just downloaded SimShaker to try it but it doesn't work with a joystick. Apparently, it only works with a chair/cushion as you mentioned. Anyway, thanks for the infos guys! May be in 2030 DCS would release this feature :doh:
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