Texac Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) With the PFM for the Su-33 getting closer to release at the end of the month I thought the aircraft could also get some optical improvements. So I made five different liveries which are based on the prototype and production variants of Project T10M, a program to improve capabilities for the Su-27 Flanker. The Su-27M Flanker received canards during it's improvement phase which are also present on the Su-33 thus the skins are made for the Su-33 in DCS World. The Skin file can be downloaded here at the User Files. Updates: 09-27-2017 - addition of a weathered (710) livery - minor adjustments and fixes to all aircraft - changed all skin names All five skins are included in this one file. Edited September 27, 2017 by Texac 3 - My Skins/Liveries - Improved F-16C Texture Template • Texac on YouTube •
alexitua Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 Excellent repaints, especially the Bort 88! It would be great to make an early repaints of Flanker-D (the dark blue ones that came out straight from the factory).
Alfa Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 Nice work! A little nitpick on your description though. The T10M was initially known as the Su-27M, but was later redesignated Su-35(same way as Su-27K became Su-33) and wasn't really an "upgrade" to the Su-27, but rather an entirely new multirole version with a new airframe(not just addition of canards) and fly-by-wire control system as well as a new system's package(including new radar and WCS). The currently operated Su-35S is an upgraded version of the T10M. JJ
Alfa Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 Excellent repaints, especially the Bort 88! It would be great to make an early repaints of Flanker-D (the dark blue ones that came out straight from the factory). Those were for an earlier batch of 7 pre-production test aircraft built in 1990-1991. JJ
Texac Posted September 19, 2017 Author Posted September 19, 2017 Nice work! A little nitpick on your description though. The T10M was initially known as the Su-27M, but was later redesignated Su-35(same way as Su-27K became Su-33) and wasn't really an "upgrade" to the Su-27, but rather an entirely new multirole version with a new airframe(not just addition of canards) and fly-by-wire control system as well as a new system's package(including new radar and WCS). The currently operated Su-35S is an upgraded version of the T10M. Thanks! I'll admit at the beginning I had very little knowledge and I just wanted to make these liveries but I could compensate that with searching for better images. I will correct the description then. - My Skins/Liveries - Improved F-16C Texture Template • Texac on YouTube •
ebabil Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 looking great. can you also make worn out versions of them? at least a few of them? FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
Texac Posted September 19, 2017 Author Posted September 19, 2017 I can create one worn out template and apply them to each aircraft. That worn out template would look like this, maybe a little more: - My Skins/Liveries - Improved F-16C Texture Template • Texac on YouTube •
ebabil Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 yeah looks good and just for my taste. thanks FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
Alfa Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 Thanks! I'll admit at the beginning I had very little knowledge and I just wanted to make these liveries but I could compensate that with searching for better images. I will correct the description then. No big deal mate :) . I only mentioned it because I noticed that some people were confused about what aircraft the skins are depicting. Maybe it would be a good idea to change the title on the download page to something like: "Su-35(T10M) liveries for the Su-33". JJ
alexitua Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 Those were for an earlier batch of 7 pre-production test aircraft built in 1990-1991. Are you sure? Because i found photos of B/N 78, up to 88 with that dark colour scheme. They were built from 1991 up to 1997, so they can't be pre-production ones.
Alfa Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 Are you sure? Because i found photos of B/N 78, up to 88 with that dark colour scheme. They were built from 1991 up to 1997, so they can't be pre-production ones. Hmm could you post a photo of the color scheme in question? I cannot remember having seen the operational Su-33s with anything other than the standard one - are you sure that it isn't just the lighting conditions that makes it look darker in some photos?. JJ
alexitua Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 Hmm could you post a photo of the color scheme in question? I cannot remember having seen the operational Su-33s with anything other than the standard one - are you sure that it isn't just the lighting conditions that makes it look darker in some photos?. I found these one (they are much darker than the other scheme that were painted during their first "KBP" i think): http://lemur59.ru/sites/default/files/images/Su27K_(Su33)_DD-SD-99-06153%20(1).jpg http://www.knaaz.su.opt-images.1c-bitrix-cdn.ru/upload/iblock/82a/su-33_06_big.jpg_Thumbnail0.jpg?1495512852307556 http://s017.radikal.ru/i431/1112/03/8b76719034a5.jpg http://s017.radikal.ru/i440/1112/ac/c23027518247.jpg http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/sukhoi/su/33/img/su33_19.jpg http://www.knaaz.su.opt-images.1c-bitrix-cdn.ru/upload/iblock/bef/su-33_07_big.jpg_Thumbnail0.jpg?1495512817258968 They do ressemble a lot the B/N 109 colour scheme, but as you can see in the last photo, it's a bit diffrent but maybe, it is just a lighting.
Alfa Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) Yeah maybe you are right - at least in the photos it does look more like the scheme of the test aircraft. Also in the first of your photos the Sukhoi emblem is painted on the tailfins, while the squadron markings(golden eagle and tiger head) aren't there yet in any of them. The scheme I had in mind when you talked about a darker one, is the one as seen on the T10K-6(no 79) in the attached photos - initially it also had dark grey radome and tailfin tips. Edited September 22, 2017 by Alfa JJ
alexitua Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) Yeah maybe you are right - at least in the photos it does look more like the scheme of the test aircraft. Also in the first of your photos the Sukhoi emblem is painted on the tailfins, while the squadron markings(golden eagle and tiger head) aren't there yet. Yes, excatly. But at least we can see a progression from dark scheme on 79 to 109 a bit more lighter and than the defintive from B/N 60 perhaps . They were brand new without any emblems, unforntunately the paint started to fade just after three years of operations. But at least it would be quite significant to have that scheme from T.A.Apakidze era:music_whistling: P.S: https://s33.postimg.org/hjaanuf9r/84_85.jpg maybe it is a bit clear photo. Edited September 22, 2017 by alexitua
Alfa Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 Yes, excatly. But at least we can see a progression from dark scheme on 79 to 109 a bit more lighter and than the defintive from B/N 60 perhaps . They were brand new without any emblems, unforntunately the paint started to fade just after three years of operations. But at least it would be quite significant to have that scheme from T.A.Apakidze era... Yes I agree. I am working on a 3D cockpit for the older test version(based on photos of the T10K-5), so for me the above no. 79 scheme would also be great :) JJ
alexitua Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 Yes I agree. I am working on a 3D cockpit for the older test version(based on photos of the T10K-5), so for me the above no. 79 scheme would also be great :) Let's hope so, if anyone is intrested in making it, i can help by providing more images of that color scheme. IMHO it can be done by tweaking a T10K-9 scheme aka B/N 109, which i did but i don't know if it is right to share:huh:
Texac Posted September 23, 2017 Author Posted September 23, 2017 Let's hope so, if anyone is intrested in making it, i can help by providing more images of that color scheme. IMHO it can be done by tweaking a T10K-9 scheme aka B/N 109, which i did but i don't know if it is right to share:huh: Feel free to post all the images you can find in whatever resolution and I'll see what I can do. The darker colors look interesting. - My Skins/Liveries - Improved F-16C Texture Template • Texac on YouTube •
Alfa Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 Let's hope so, if anyone is intrested in making it, i can help by providing more images of that color scheme. IMHO it can be done by tweaking a T10K-9 scheme aka B/N 109, which i did but i don't know if it is right to share:huh: I guess it depends on who made the skin you tweaked - if its a user made skin, you could just ask the person who made it. JJ
alexitua Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 Feel free to post all the images you can find in whatever resolution and I'll see what I can do. The darker colors look interesting. In a few moments i will send you PM with some photo. Btw i don't know as this repaint (T10K-9) was made by ED.:huh:
Texac Posted September 23, 2017 Author Posted September 23, 2017 There shouldn't be a problem of sharing an existing livery made by ED for free with user made changes, I'm sure all the available skins for the Su-33 are made by Eagle Dynamics. - My Skins/Liveries - Improved F-16C Texture Template • Texac on YouTube •
Alfa Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 In a few moments i will send you PM with some photo. Btw i don't know as this repaint (T10K-9) was made by ED.:huh: What Texac said - shouldn't be a problem then. JJ
alexitua Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 Nice! :) Thanks! But it was just a tweaking, i think that this scheme deserves a proper skin, so let's see what Texac will come out with. I provided him a lot of photos with decent quality, so wish him a good luck and wait for some news!:thumbup:
Texac Posted September 24, 2017 Author Posted September 24, 2017 Based on the B/N 7X except the tail. Your thoughts? Work also continues on the 710 worn out scheme. - My Skins/Liveries - Improved F-16C Texture Template • Texac on YouTube •
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