Dualcore Opty s939 vs E6600

[GiGurra]

Well I recently aquired an 8800gtx@625/2000 in an attempt to improve my fps. Unfortunately it only improved ever so slightly.

 

I was then running what I thought to be pretty heavy stuff:

Opteron 165@2,4 GHz, 2gigs of ram.

 

With a specific track I tested my fps at a certain point: approx 95.

Then I decided to try it out with an E6600@3,33Ghz.

The results were amazing. I never expected anything like this. I got 250fps (!!) at the same spot. Now I am able to run the game at close to all high details 8xAA(transp+GC)/4xAF(UnOptimized) with the fps pretty high.

In MP games I guess it dips down to 55-60fps in some very heavy situations(fights close to cities & so on), but my game runs on avg around 80-120 fps.

 

This was entirely impossible with the opty, so all you a64 users out there I sincerely recommend the Intel Core 2 duo if you have performance issues!

I really used to be an AMD fanboy - in fact this is my first Intel system _ever_...But uh oh has that changed now :smartass:

[Pilotasso]

yah, I was thinking about getting a new GFX but it apears its not going to do much good, so in a couple of months Ill get a new machine, Ill look torwards quad core if they are more affordable. Im gonna give CPU power the priority over the GFX (also because of budget).

 

The AMD FX-7x also looks promising because theres dual socket MOBO's out there. when AMD pulls out their quad cores it will result in an Octo-core.

 

The disavantage is that they consume alot of power so I preffer getting a "real" quad core instead. Hopefully it will be intell, because they perform better in XP but the twin dual (=quad) FX-7x core AMD has right now is just one third of the costs of intell's single socket solution but they also have some technical tricks up their sleeve for Vista.

[GiGurra]

Well there's really no advantage at all in lomac with more than 2 cores.

The program is single-threaded so you can only run the game on one core :)

 

What you do is you shove all your other programs and processes to your second core and set lockon to run on the primary.

 

The results I've seen on the AMD 4x4 so far are....disappointing to say the least. That was gonna be my first pick as well, or a core 2 quadro, but those turned out so friggin expensive!

 

But as you say the upcoming native 4core-CPUs from AMD might be something to look out for :)

[Pilotasso]

Yeah but consider this, Im gonna get it to last 3 years like this one already has, and Im not after JUST LOMAC. AND you can swich the various aplications to the various CPU's so indirectly you DO benifit from it in LOMAC.

[GiGurra]

Yeah but consider this, Im gonna get it to last 3 years like this one already has, and Im not after JUST LOMAC. AND you can swich the various aplications to the various CPU's so indirectly you DO benifit from it in LOMAC.

 

 

Yes thats what I meant with shoving everything else to other cores. But in lomac for example quad isnt faster than dual. (unless quad uses another setup of ram =)

 

For future apps yes I agree quad is much nicer than dual, but is simply too expensive for me atm.

[3Sqn_Fudd]

95 to 250 fps? Were you running this track through fraps to get an set comparison of average fps? I didn't think it would be that high... Some of the guys that have made the switch reported alot better frames, but not 150%...

 

It's close though fellas, LOMAC should be completely playable at the highest levels by next year... lol

 

And pilotasso... I am a massive fan of AMD and commercial competition in general, but the Fx-70 and its family isn't going to cut it unless those vista tricks are substantial.

[Pilotasso]

Sure, I will wait to see, my comments were made to see what you guys had to say about it. Its just one of possible solutions that I have not yet fully studied yet. :)

[Guest IguanaKing]

95 to 250 fps? Were you running this track through fraps to get an set comparison of average fps? I didn't think it would be that high... Some of the guys that have made the switch reported alot better frames, but not 150%...

 

I have been using fraps, and I got similar results on my maximum FPS reading between my old and new machines. The old one was a P4 3.4GHz, the new one is an X6800. My higher numbers with the X6800 were also obtained using higher graphics settings than I ever was able to use with the P4. Not to mention the fact that it runs about 10-25 degrees C cooler than the old Northwood P4, and the temp doesn't seem to change much under load.

[GiGurra]

Those were the numbers. I dont know how. Perhaps I was doing something wrong with the opty, but those were the numbers I got =/

[GiGurra]

Very nice pic in your sig cali!

I'm seing an average of 50%-100% more fps when running with AA & AF on. With them off I get even more of an increase from before.

 

As someone said, in about a year perhaps we can max out lomac graphics. This game sure is scaleable :)

[Prophet]

Not to worry for you AMD fans. AMD has been behind in developing 65nm technology, which the Core 2 is.

 

They have recently started shipping 65nm, I got some inside info on why that happened, and the delay. There first goal was to lower power consumption for mobile use, next is performance.

 

But since I will be waiting a while to by a new computer, I am more than willing to wait to see who's is better.

 

I know Intel is about ready to install a 'beta' tool from us for development of their next process.

[Pilotasso]

Theres reviews out there about those AMD's, they are not better perfomers than 90mm models. Intels are still faster. AMD's true quad core (not FX-7x) might be different specialy under VISTA.

[Prophet]

Like I said, first goal is only for power consumption for mobile.

[Kuky]

Well the really sweet thing about lock on is that when processor power (on single core) improves even more, we'll be able to have object visibility settings for buildings set to 10km +

 

I can just imagine how nice the terain would look if we can enable max strucures density and nice far away visibility distance set in graphics.cfg file :D

 

Even if 5 years, when those CPU's might become reality, Lock On will still look much better then Falcon 4 looks like right now. Falcon 4 is supperbly realist sim, but the graphics are just awfull.

 

But then again, I guess Black Shark will make a new level of realism for Lock On... and even nicer graphics... but then again there will be Fighter OPS out and BoB Storm of War... hmmm... alright I'll stop thinking now :)

[fretwear]

Well I think I'm going to order a Sapphire X1950XTX and another gig of ram tomorrow. I miss ATi's image quality and hopefully this combo will help things become a bit more fluid than they are right now. I'm not as concerned with max frames at this point as I am with minimum frames and stuttering in certain situations.

[Kuky]

I have found out that I can use a max of 6xAA and 4xAF with my X1950XTX (on 1280x1024) because if I go for any higher AF like 8xAF I get quite noticeable stutters when doing a quick roll. I use everything on Highest setting in LockOn graphics (including High Scene file), with exception of water which is on High and I have manually modifies graphics.cfg for visibility distance to be about 1/3 between Medium and High settings (80 density and 6000m distance for Structures).

 

The game will still run fine and even with frame rates of 40-50fps with 8xAF I start to get these stutters, so I leave AF to 4x only.