Simple Randomizing; FPS Trouble

[rassy7]

Hi All,

 

Despite several attempts, I haven't been able to learn enough of this language to use script effectively to do what I want to do in missions.

 

I have a decent machine (specs in sig FWIW), but I am still running into frame rate issues. I don't know a ton about what impacts frame rate, but I believe I read somewhere that the number of events and triggers in the game does and I know the number of aircraft in a mission does as well (even if I can't see them).

 

I created this mission (attached) as a kind of proof of concept to randomize MiG-15's launching from different bases for me, patrolling in an F-86 to intercept and engage. I wanted to have simulated dogfights all over so there is a ton of F-86 traffic as well.

 

End result is yes, it works, but it quickly boggs down my system to a non-playable level.

 

Questions:

1) Is there a way to use some kind of spawn/respawn script to eliminate the mass of triggers?

2) Do I have any hope of creating a sky filled with a/c without destroying the playability of a mission?

3) Does anyone know of another mission out there similar to this one I could try. I'm really just trying to get better at A2A in the F-86 and tried to build this to give me several hours of practicing finding MiG's and dogfighting with them.

 

Thanks in advance!

Saberz Wild.miz

[feefifofum]

Are you specifically looking to have them go through the full taxi/takeoff sequence or would an air start from a randomized position be sufficient?

 

If you're fine with a random starting location within an established area there's a very simple MiST solution that only requires two triggers and a zone:

First, create your target group. Then, create a trigger zone in the size of the area you'd like to search.

 

 

Trigger 1

Type:

ONCE type, NO EVENT

Conditions:

None

Triggered Actions:

DO SCRIPT FILE (mist_4_3_74.lua)

 

download MiST here, right click and save link as

 

Trigger 2

Type:

CONTINUOUS ACTION, NO EVENT

Conditions:

None

Triggered Actions:

DO SCRIPT and paste the following into the script container:

if not Group.getByName('MiG15') then
  mist.respawnInZone('MiG15', 'myZone', true)
end

 

As you shoot down the MiG, it should respawn in a random position within the zone you've defined.

Edited December 26, 2017 by feefifofum

[rassy7]

That's a good question. At first, I thought it wouldn't make a difference (other than running the risk of having a MiG spawn on my tail), but in practice, a few times, I found myself after a dogfight over or near an enemy airdrome and caught a couple on the ground. That was more fun than I anticipated and helped me iron out strafing, so ideally it would include the full taxi, but not a deal-breaker if there is a script that can make this work without that.

 

Also, I don't care if they deactivate after landing, but I couldn't figure out how to make that happen without a bunch more triggers and events.

 

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[rassy7]

Are you specifically looking to have them go through the full taxi/takeoff sequence or would an air start from a randomized position be sufficient?

 

If you're fine with a random starting location within an established area there's a very simple MiST solution that only requires two triggers and a zone:

First, create your target group. Then, create a trigger zone in the size of the area you'd like to search.

 

 

Trigger 1

Type:

ONCE type, NO EVENT

Conditions:

None

Triggered Actions:

DO SCRIPT FILE (mist_4_3_74.lua)

 

download MiST here, right click and save link as

 

Trigger 2

Type:

CONTINUOUS ACTION, NO EVENT

Conditions:

None

Triggered Actions:

DO SCRIPT and paste the following into the script container:

if not Group.getByName('MiG15') then
  mist.respawnInZone('MiG15', 'myZone', true)
end

 

As you shoot down the MiG, it should respawn in a random position within the zone you've defined.

This looks great. I just saw the rest of your post. My phone was having some trouble.

 

I'll try this out tomorrow. Thanks for your help!

 

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[Sierra99]

Take a look at this thread.:

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=120325&page=107

 

Sierra

[rassy7]

Take a look at this thread.:

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=120325&page=107

 

Sierra

Thanks. That's super helpful. I can't believe I'm considering trying to learn enough of knee of these languages to be dangerous again, but I remembered reading a lot about MIST and Moose. Assuming I would have to learn one or the other, or at least the two in succession, which would you start with? I'm kind of a teach a man HOW to fish guy so this is most beneficial if I can come to understand WHY and HOW these scripts are working. They look incredible though. I'm very excited.

 

Thanks again!

 

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[feefifofum]

For my .02:

 

There are a lot of 'quick and dirty' solutions in MiST like the one I posted. If you have a strong knowledge of the scripting engine that DCS uses, you can also get pretty involved but it's very much a ground-up approach for a lot of things.

 

MOOSE has a lot more flexibility built right into the framework, but I would say it requires a significant time investment to get anywhere with anything more complex. Sven AKA FlightControl has made a huge effort to make tutorial videos and example missions, but it can still be a little intimidating to a first time user.

 

The MOOSE community is second to none in terms of responsiveness, though, and the guys there are very happy to help new folks out...even if you get a little grumpy when you learn you need to go a lot deeper down the rabbit hole than you thought you did. :lol:

 

If you have a programming background, or a lot of time and patience, I'd say hop into MOOSE. If you're just looking for very simple, basic functions more directly tied into DCS, MiST is probably a good place to start. There is a wiki that has lots of little one-offs like the one I posted.

[rassy7]

For my .02:

 

There are a lot of 'quick and dirty' solutions in MiST like the one I posted. If you have a strong knowledge of the scripting engine that DCS uses, you can also get pretty involved but it's very much a ground-up approach for a lot of things.

 

MOOSE has a lot more flexibility built right into the framework, but I would say it requires a significant time investment to get anywhere with anything more complex. Sven AKA FlightControl has made a huge effort to make tutorial videos and example missions, but it can still be a little intimidating to a first time user.

 

The MOOSE community is second to none in terms of responsiveness, though, and the guys there are very happy to help new folks out...even if you get a little grumpy when you learn you need to go a lot deeper down the rabbit hole than you thought you did.

 

If you have a programming background, or a lot of time and patience, I'd say hop into MOOSE. If you're just looking for very simple, basic functions more directly tied into DCS, MiST is probably a good place to start. There is a wiki that has lots of little one-offs like the one I posted.

Wow, that's a great explanation. I've messed are here and there with MIST before, but never really taken it the distance in a mission. I'll take a look at each and see what feels best for my purposes. Most of what I've done has been for website development: HTML5, ActionScript3 and some JavaScript, but it always feels new all over again.

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

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[rassy7]

Just wanted to close the loop here. I decided to go the route of MOOSE, because it was an unknown and MIST was known and known to me a difficult. Anyway, I started with something simple that had most of the work already done: RAT. Not only did the Random Air Traffic easily solve this particular problem 100%, it's so easy to use, pretty much all my missions have some form of AI traffic now.

 

Couple links for anyone else who might bump into a similar issue: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=194247&highlight=SetDeparture&page=7

http://flightcontrol-master.github.io/MOOSE/Documentation/Rat.html##(RAT).SetFL

 

MOOSE was a great suggestion.

 

Thanks!

[Delta99]

Rassy, welcome aboard the Moose train ;)

 

Just wanted to close the loop here. I decided to go the route of MOOSE, because it was an unknown and MIST was known and known to me a difficult. Anyway, I started with something simple that had most of the work already done: RAT. Not only did the Random Air Traffic easily solve this particular problem 100%, it's so easy to use, pretty much all my missions have some form of AI traffic now.

 

Couple links for anyone else who might bump into a similar issue: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=194247&highlight=SetDeparture&page=7

http://flightcontrol-master.github.io/MOOSE/Documentation/Rat.html##(RAT).SetFL

 

MOOSE was a great suggestion.

 

Thanks!