Horns Posted January 30, 2018 Author Posted January 30, 2018 what? you'll get emission indications but you only get warnings if the radar emitter switches to guidance waveform aka you have a missile inbound if you haven't played any multiplayer yet you should just go online and do some flying, it will answer these basic questions My bad, I did use the wrong term, I should have asked “how do we avoid getting radar emission indications constantly when flying with a wing/man beside/behind?” I meant to ask about the way this works with AI wingmen, I didn’t realise there was a difference in the RWR function for multiplayer or I would have clarified, once again, my apologies. Modules: [A-10C] [AJS 37] [AV8B N/A] [F-5E] [F-14] [F-15E] [F-16] [F/A-18C] [FC3] [Ka-50] [M-2000C] [Mig-21 bis] [Afghanistan] [Cold War: Germany] [Iraq] [Kola] [NTTR] [PG] [SC] Intel i9-14900KF, Nvidia GTX 4080, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master X 64GB DDR5 @ 6400 MHz, SteelSeries Apex Pro, Asus ROG Gladius 3, VKB Gunfighter 3 w/ F-14 grip, VKB STECS throttle, Thrustmaster MFD Cougars x2, MFG Crosswind, DSD Flight Series button controller, XK-24, Meta Quest 3
QuiGon Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) My bad, I did use the wrong term, I should have asked “how do we avoid getting radar emission indications constantly when flying with a wing/man beside/behind?” I meant to ask about the way this works with AI wingmen, I didn’t realise there was a difference in the RWR function for multiplayer or I would have clarified, once again, my apologies. If you wingman is another attack Viggen, than you should not get any RWR indications as he is not equipped with an air to air radar and I don't think you can pick up the emissions of the Viggens A-G radar in DCS. If your wingman is a fighter with an air to air radar, than you will have constant RWR indication. That's just how it is as it can't distinguish between friendly and enemy radar emissions. That's not just the case with the Viggens RWR, but with all RWRs in all aircraft. Edited January 30, 2018 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Horns Posted January 30, 2018 Author Posted January 30, 2018 If you wingman is another attack Viggen, than you should not get any RWR indications as he is not equipped with an air to air radar and I don't think you can pick up the emissions of the Viggens A-G radar in DCS. If you wingman is a fighter with a air to air radar, than you will have constant RWR indication. That's just how it is as it can't distinguish between friendly and enemy radar emissions. That's not just the case with the Viggens RWR, but with all RWRs in all aircraft. Oh ok, that makes sense. Thanks, I think I’ve got my head around it now. Modules: [A-10C] [AJS 37] [AV8B N/A] [F-5E] [F-14] [F-15E] [F-16] [F/A-18C] [FC3] [Ka-50] [M-2000C] [Mig-21 bis] [Afghanistan] [Cold War: Germany] [Iraq] [Kola] [NTTR] [PG] [SC] Intel i9-14900KF, Nvidia GTX 4080, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master X 64GB DDR5 @ 6400 MHz, SteelSeries Apex Pro, Asus ROG Gladius 3, VKB Gunfighter 3 w/ F-14 grip, VKB STECS throttle, Thrustmaster MFD Cougars x2, MFG Crosswind, DSD Flight Series button controller, XK-24, Meta Quest 3
probad Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 you should not get any RWR indications as he is not equipped with an air to air radar and I don't think you can pick up the emissions of the Viggens A-G radar in DCS rwrs will pick up viggen radar, as it is an x band set just like all other aircraft radars.
QuiGon Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 rwrs will pick up viggen radar, as it is an x band set just like all other aircraft radars. Yes, in theory. But I think DCS handles A-G radars differently so they won't be recognized by RWRs. Have you tested it? Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
probad Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 yes i only replied after having verified in game with both viggen and f-15 rwrs
QuiGon Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 yes i only replied after having verified in game with both viggen and f-15 rwrs Both RWRs indicate Viggen radar emissions? You tested with AI only I assume? Because player controlled planes have different sensor modelling I think, so that the result might be different. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Horns Posted January 30, 2018 Author Posted January 30, 2018 rwrs will pick up viggen radar, as it is an x band set just like all other aircraft radars. I definitely don’t pick up my flight’s radars in “Hunting the hunters”, which is why I asked. Modules: [A-10C] [AJS 37] [AV8B N/A] [F-5E] [F-14] [F-15E] [F-16] [F/A-18C] [FC3] [Ka-50] [M-2000C] [Mig-21 bis] [Afghanistan] [Cold War: Germany] [Iraq] [Kola] [NTTR] [PG] [SC] Intel i9-14900KF, Nvidia GTX 4080, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master X 64GB DDR5 @ 6400 MHz, SteelSeries Apex Pro, Asus ROG Gladius 3, VKB Gunfighter 3 w/ F-14 grip, VKB STECS throttle, Thrustmaster MFD Cougars x2, MFG Crosswind, DSD Flight Series button controller, XK-24, Meta Quest 3
QuiGon Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 I definitely don’t pick up my flight’s radars in “Hunting the hunters”, which is why I asked. Is that singleplayer (AI aircraft in flight) or multiplayer (player controlled aircraft in flight)? Edit: Just to be clear, we are now only talking about how DCS handles A-G radars specifically. In real life they would be picked up by the RWR for sure, just like any other radar emission (within a certain frequency range). Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
grunf Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 I know for sure that the RWR picks up AI Viggen's radar in single player. I don't know if there's any difference in multiplayer.
Horns Posted January 30, 2018 Author Posted January 30, 2018 Is that singleplayer (AI aircraft in flight) or multiplayer (player controlled aircraft in flight)? Edit: Just to be clear, we are now only talking about how DCS handles A-G radars specifically. In real life they would be picked up by the RWR for sure, just like any other radar emission (within a certain frequency range). Single, sorry forgot there is a multiplayer one around. And yes, I get that IRL RWRs pick up radar regardless, cheers Modules: [A-10C] [AJS 37] [AV8B N/A] [F-5E] [F-14] [F-15E] [F-16] [F/A-18C] [FC3] [Ka-50] [M-2000C] [Mig-21 bis] [Afghanistan] [Cold War: Germany] [Iraq] [Kola] [NTTR] [PG] [SC] Intel i9-14900KF, Nvidia GTX 4080, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master X 64GB DDR5 @ 6400 MHz, SteelSeries Apex Pro, Asus ROG Gladius 3, VKB Gunfighter 3 w/ F-14 grip, VKB STECS throttle, Thrustmaster MFD Cougars x2, MFG Crosswind, DSD Flight Series button controller, XK-24, Meta Quest 3
QuiGon Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 I know for sure that the RWR picks up AI Viggen's radar in single player. I don't know if there's any difference in multiplayer. Single, sorry forgot there is a multiplayer one around. And yes, I get that IRL RWRs pick up radar regardless, cheers Alright, thanks guys! So it works in SP, but I still think that might be different in MP, given how different DCS handles AI aircraft. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
probad Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 player viggen radar shows up on rwr just the same please stop insisting otherwise
QuiGon Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 player viggen radar shows up on rwr just the same [ATTACH]177022[/ATTACH] please stop insisting otherwise Thanks for confirmation! It's great to see that it actually works. I will shut up now :thumbup: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
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