UN Mission 5 in DCS 2.5

[rge75]

Just tried mission 5 and I think the location of the downed Huey should be reconsidered. Yes, actually it's possible to land in the forest, but there's no gap for errors. It's extremely tight. It might be too difficult for many pilots IMO.

[Sharkku]

**May contain mild spoilers**

 

I agree. Personally, I thoroughly enjoyed making that extremely challenging landing, but I definitely agree that it's too demanding for the general user-base, and should be altered.

 

The problem though, is that it affects a few other missions later in the campaign as well.

 

Edited February 3, 2018 by Sharkku

[rge75]

Did you manage to land there with the 1st attempt? I still have problems to land in there. My 1st attempt was the best but I touched the tail somewhere when I almost managed to land. And the more you try, the worse it gets...

 

 

 

 

Ah yes, if I'm right the downed Huey remains there in another mission? Well, they simply have to move it in all missions.

 

 

 

 

They could move it a few hundred meters to the West. There would be some clearings. I'm facing East on that pic. The Huey is in the forest ahead. So just place it here at the shore.

[rge75]

or if you want to have it even more simple, move the objects and trigger zones to this location. That worked fine for me without having to adjust altitute or anything in the trigger. I did not play till the end yet though.

[Sharkku]

No, I failed my first attempt due to asymmetrical lift caused by ground-effect acting on half the rotor-disk. I was trying to land next to the river, and the river bank was very steep and high. When I descended over the edge, the asymmetrical lift caused a pitch-up motion which was quickly counteracted by the pilot. However, the motion triggered a pilot-induced oscillation which resulted in loss of control and the main rotor striking a nearby tree. The crew survived, but the helicopter was a total loss.

 

My second attempt was more successful. I descended in the same area, but made sure to stay above flat ground at all times.

[rge75]

Ah, so you didn't try to land between the trees? That seemed pretty impossible to me. The big trees are no problem, but when you're descending, you simply can't really see the lower trees.

 

 

I did not see a landing spot next to the river though. This must also be a very small spot to land on?

[Sharkku]

Yes, it was very tight. I wonder if individual tree placement is randomly generated for each user, or if everybody has the exact same?

[rge75]

I don't think it's random. At least for me, it looks the same all the time in the LZ.

[Sharkku]

Yeah, you are probably right.

[Ryder35]

Would reducing trees to 0 work and would it be considered cheating? ;)

[Ramsay]

Would reducing trees to 0 work and would it be considered cheating? ;)

No, it wouldn't work, you end up with invisible trees (or a short draw distance), so can see the crash site BUT, AFAIK the trees are still collidable (stops MP cheating), so you'd crash when trying to land.