Thrustmaster t16000m vs CH Fighterstick/Combatstick.

[dundun92]

I've been looking at joysticks under $100, and they seem to be the best options. Which do you think would be a better choice? I prefer sticks with a "light" feel, and I heard that CH products have weaker springs. I also like the abundance of buttons(for the combatstick)and hats(for the fighterstick) on the stick itself. I also hear that they are long-lasting, and high-quality. Combined with a TWCS throttle, I will have a lot of buttons. However, I heard that the t16k has more precise sensors (same hall-effect sensors as the warthog), though I am assuming the CH has high-end pots. I simply dislike the lack of buttons on the t16k stick itself.

[Nero.ger]

The spring of the T16.000 is pretty heavy, so that might be an issue for you.

As for accuracy , i am happy with it.

I have the older "green" model not the newer "orange" one, dont know if something significantly changed.

[Sokol1_br]

However, I heard that the t16k has more precise sensors (same hall-effect sensors as the warthog), though I am assuming the CH has high-end pots.

 

Right, T.16K use Melexis MLX90333 3D HALL sensor like Warthog but in a more simple "ball-joint" gimbal. The only positive point of T.16k "toy'st" grip is the abillity to be used in right and left hand.

 

CH use good quality pot (CTS), durable but not properly "high-end".

 

CH's major drawback is continue use the same USB controller since 1999/2000 with only 8 bits of resolution (256 steeps across the axis movement) face the 4/8x more resolution use by other brands actually.

 

How this matter? Some people say that lack for helicopter control, other people say that are precise enough for then.

 

In matter of durability, probable none other stick beat then - you don't see pictures of CH parts broken like happens to other brands.

Edited April 12, 2018 by Sokol1_br

[DeepDrummer]

The 12 buttons on the base of the T.16000 can be increased to 72 by using layers with the Target software.

The problem is it is difficult to hold two buttons on the top AND hit another button. It works fine when it is the only stick you have and you have 2 hands free.

The beauty of it is, if it is included in a Target script for the Hotas Wartog, the lever on the wartog can be used to make the shifted layer. The U and D and M layers which are generally shifted via the flap switch on the wartog, can also be controlled via the wartog.

Either way, I have determined that not only is the T.16000 a decent stick for the price.

I find it has a worse sticktion problem than the Hotas Wartog but the price makes that easy to ignore. I'd buy another and probably will.

The twist function could be handy as well.

With or without Target, it's a handy stick.

I set up three buttons to use all states here as a trial and an example.

[Elwood]

I have both of them and I prefer the FlightStick, mainly for the multiple HAT and that is designed to resemble a true fighter joystick. The TM16000 has a good accuracy but I'm using it as secondary joystick (needed for viggen and mirage).