jaguara5 Posted June 30, 2018 Posted June 30, 2018 Does anybody know how non US / carrier operators fly the traffic pattern and perform the landing? (i' m interested especially for Finnland, Switzerland and Australia). Carrier wise (350 kts / 800 ft, downwind 600 feet, no flare etc) or more conventionally (e.x. 300 kts 1500 ft initially, with flare etc)? And also, can someone describe with concrete numbers a real life touch and go procedure? (what to do after touchdown, at which altitude / speed perform the 180 turn to the downwind etc)
HawkDCS Posted June 30, 2018 Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) Most normal traffic patterns are flown 1000-1500Ft AGL in either left or right direction. This will depend on the way the wind is blowing and how the airport is set up. Upwind Crosswind Downwind Base Final legs. You make 45 degree turns not full 90s. That being said if its a big jet you can kinda race track it. You typically in VFR will enter the pattern at a 45 Degree angle. You are going to want to get on AoA even for field landing then use the throttle to put your velocity vector on the touchdown point on the runway (typically the two large white stripes). If you are on AoA and Vector is on runway with hud uncaged you have your approach speed. You can also look at landing speeds chart and see what is correct speed for your weight. If you are on AoA you don't have to sweat it. Once you have the main and nose gear down immediately go to full Mil or A/B and begin to rotate. If its a short runway you may need A/B. Bring flaps to half and fly runway heading down the runway. When you turn downwind you want to be at pattern altitude. So if 1500Ft is pattern you want to be at 750 at crosswind turn then when you turn downwind be at 1500AGL. Turn base when the runway is 45 degrees from your aircraft you will get a feel when to turn. You can fly the entire pattern on AoA which will give you a nice slow pattern to practice. You usually set the aircraft dirty again on downwind leg so drop your flaps and gear and get on AoA again. Military airports may have different procedures but your not going to be entering the pattern rocketing around at 300 KIAS at a civi airport. Wags has several videos on his YT channel showing field landing procedure. Edited June 30, 2018 by HawkDCS Rig: 5960X @ 4.5GHZ 32GB 3000Mhz DDR4 Titan XP Dell 3415W 21:9 Thrustmaster Warthog
Dangerman Posted June 30, 2018 Posted June 30, 2018 Most military airfield circuit patterns allow a low break and turn to downwind (speed and height limited by Flying Order Book) Height varies between 1000 and 1500 ft.. usually 1000ft in uk (again listed in FOB) Circuits are oval, no square patterns or the boys in the crew room will let you know you fly "bomber circuits" Touchdown aiming point is the numbers. e.g., the big 30 written on the threshold beyond the "Piano Keys"... ignore civvy touchdown makers...that is for big jets to have tail clearance over the fence. For a formation recovery, the aircraft break in sequence (timing between decided by type SOP) Leader calls "Tiger, 4 aircraft, Break, Land)..each aircraft makes their own final call After landing, the lead and subsequent aircraft move to the slow side of the runway, (usually briefed but also covered by SOPs)...so anyone with brakes/chute/thrust reverser failure can blow through without writing off jets
IvanK Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 RAAF Initial 400Kts (5 sec interval) Circuit 1500ft Wingtip down the rwy for spacing. Base Turn VV 7 deg down correcting to 3 deg as you roll out on final Throttle drives AOA Stick drives Flight path put VV on aimpoint Mini flare landing Touch and go Mil Gear up Flaps Auto after Take Off
Precog Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 At what point do you make the base turn? 45 degrees to threshold? Check out my 'real world' video series [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
IvanK Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 A simple method is directly abeam the point on final you want to roll wings level at
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