Your Curves in Case I

[Belphe]

I have been struggling with Case 1 landings for the last 4 days only to discover that I get better results with the pitch and roll curves at zero (linear controls). Anybody else prefers this or am I a freak? So far I've been using 15 15 but crosswind leg and setting the Hornet on-speed AOA was a mare..

Edited July 19, 2018 by Belphe

[Pasquale1986]

Nope, same for me, but i use a virpil t-50 base with 75mm expansion so no need at all for curves. But you shouldn’t play with pitch too much after the carrier brake since it should be trim to on speed AoA and throttle only afterwards

[Belphe]

But you shouldn’t play with pitch too much after the carrier brake since it should be trim to on speed AoA and throttle only afterwards

 

Yeah, I know but setting it on speed aoa is where the curves were messing me up.

 

Also, I'm not sure where my velocity vector should point at the very last stage of landing. I watch the ball but VV is more precise, more "up to date".. I've heard people say to totally ignore it but then again Chuck on his guide is saying to "aim for the 3rd wire" which I find impossible to do using only the ball...

 

I just wish my landings suddenly got better..

[Pasquale1986]

OK i see, your VV should Point roughly at the crotch of the carrier deck. I suggest you look at lex' Video tutorials on YouTube he's a former Hornet Driver! Extremely informative:

 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPqnAPcQSxyCqJ0CZu9qMmg/videos

[Donut]

I'm with you, I have my pitch and roll curves at 0. At first, I saw some recommendations on the forums for setting curves for pitch and roll to 15 but it just didn't feel right to me. With no curves in pitch and roll, I feel that I have much better control and it feels more natural and responsive to me. Landing and air refueling just took a bunch of practice in the beginning and in the end, the curves weren't the problem, it was me!

[macedk]

10 for pitch and 15 for roll for me.

 

Warthog just too sensitive to be zero for me and the stick is 7 years old, so it notch'es a tiny bit on center.

[Belphe]

OK i see, your VV should Point roughly at the crotch of the carrier deck. I suggest you look at lex' Video tutorials on YouTube he's a former Hornet Driver! Extremely informative:

 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPqnAPcQSxyCqJ0CZu9qMmg/videos

 

Thanks. I will. With the VV I meant it's position in the vertival plane: should it be dead on 3rd wire, far edge of the boat etc..

[David OC]

Thanks. I will. With the VV I meant it's position in the vertival plane: should it be dead on 3rd wire, far edge of the boat etc..

 

You fly on speed and

just using the throttle once in the groove. This sets the aircraft up to be at 8.1 degrees AOA for the Hook to ramp angle to be correct. If you then are able to keep the ball centered (ALL the way down) you will catch the 3rd wire. The ball gets more sensitive when in close.;)

More info here

 

[Ala12Rv-watermanpc]

"good" sticks with plenty of deflection angle, stable jittering free response and high resolution should NEVER use any kind of curve...since I got my warthog I have never ever used a curve again...linear all the way!!

[macedk]

Also with curves , you don't loose anything , just making a different response picture.

[antagonist]

I have to admit, I've never felt the need to use curves in any DCS module, nor for any plane in IL-2 BoX - or any other simulator that I've ever played, come to think of it.

 

That said, I actually had to remove the upper ~30% of the DCS Spitfire's elevator axis travel for fear of inadvertedly stalling the plane, but that's mostly a limitation of my not owning a stick extension yet. I'm looking forward to removing it next week.

 

I've always found it strange a lot of people seem to consider curves to be the go-to method if you don't have a stick extension, sometimes even if you have one. The sudden increase in plane response has in practice always served to put me into the ground on conditions other than my own, with...final results.

[Doum76]

I have been struggling with Case 1 landings for the last 4 days only to discover that I get better results with the pitch and roll curves at zero (linear controls). Anybody else prefers this or am I a freak? So far I've been using 15 15 but crosswind leg and setting the Hornet on-speed AOA was a mare..

 

 

 

 

As pointed out often, curves is a personal taste and depends what you do, there is no good and no bad curves, some lkes it more laysy some more nervous, what matters is what works for you, if for exemple all you do is landings, you might want tuned it down a little, but someone who does aerobatics might use a different setting. Curves makes soft close to center stick but the further you move it away from center, the more steep the cruves goes and more accentuated the movements are. I personaly rather tune down a bit the saturation but keep a steady lineaire curves so the movement are linerare from center to end stick travel, but it tune it down a little wihout affecting too much the total stick travel. Again it's a personal chocie as what i find ok for me for landing, carrier ops, air refueling, dogfight. And all also depends on your hardware, as i'm using a X-56 with really soft spring, so it's really nervous.

[bbrz]

Don't know what has changed with the F/A-18, but this module has a very smooth and fine controllability around the center even with all curves at 0 with the rather short T16000M.

That's a first for me and getting full linear control without excessive sensitivity around the center is very nice :)

[Wrench]

Thrustmaster Warthog, I never use curves for anything.

Not that long ago (about a year?) I was still using an X45 dug out of amber, that was carbon-dated to the mid-mesozoic era. It still worked somehow, and I didn't use curves on that either.

 

I still use curves on my rudder pedals though, because they are crazy sensitive and they don't move smoothly.