FM Accuracy Now/Soon

[Horns]

I'll start by conceding that I know there are a bunch of threads where the MiG-21 flight model is talked about but it's tough to work out what is now or will be soon, so I ask:

 

How does the accuracy of the DCS MiG-21's current flight model compare with the accuracy of the flight models of the other full-fidelity aircraft in DCS? Is the accuracy of the MiG-21's flight model likely to improve significantly by the end of this year?

 

I believe this was the first 3rd party module in DCS and this bird was in the middle of the LN breakup, so I know there are good reasons this module had issues, and if those aren't fixed I can live with that. I'm not trolling Rudel or anyone else, I'm just trying to decide between learning this a/c right now (I already own the module) or taking another look at it in a year or so.

 

Thanks for reading.

[hovring]

I'll start by conceding that I know there are a bunch of threads where the MiG-21 flight model is talked about but it's tough to work out what is now or will be soon, so I ask:

 

How does the accuracy of the DCS MiG-21's current flight model compare with the accuracy of the flight models of the other full-fidelity aircraft in DCS? Is the accuracy of the MiG-21's flight model likely to improve significantly by the end of this year?

 

I believe this was the first 3rd party module in DCS and this bird was in the middle of the LN breakup, so I know there are good reasons this module had issues, and if those aren't fixed I can live with that. I'm not trolling Rudel or anyone else, I'm just trying to decide between learning this a/c right now (I already own the module) or taking another look at it in a year or so.

 

Thanks for reading.

 

 

Dont wait.

If they had the skills to correct the fm and damage model they would have done it long time ago. Its 4 years in the making and if you wait a year or two is not going to make any diffence. It is as it is. Just learn it and have fun. Its a cool ride!

[Horns]

Dont wait.

If they had the skills to correct the fm and damage model they would have done it long time ago. Its 4 years in the making and if you wait a year or two is not going to make any diffence. It is as it is. Just learn it and have fun. Its a cool ride!

 

That makes sense. It might be best used as a bit of fun when negotiating with the computerized systems in the newer airframes get a bit much. Thanks!

[NakedSquirrel]

I see a lot of these style posts but they tend to just say the FM is “wrong” without saying what exactly is wrong with performance.

 

I’ll admit I haven’t put the plane through it’s rigors in a while. There were a few aspects of the FM I have really enjoyed, like sliding in turns and the fact the plane would drop like a brick once wings lost lift. I’ve seen videos of this in the MiG 21, and it is neat to see it replicated.

 

Substantial posts about FM usually quote manuals or charts or at least boast some anecdotal quotes, but I don’t see that for the complaints about the MiG.

 

For example the roll rate. There were complaints the aircraft is hard to control. The devs quote the realistic roll rate and suggest setting a curve, but it’s just met with stubborn complaints.

Edited August 1, 2018 by NakedSquirrel

[bkthunder]

I see a lot of these style posts but they tend to just say the FM is “wrong” without saying what exactly is wrong with performance.

 

I’ll admit I haven’t put the plane through it’s rigors in a while. There were a few aspects of the FM I have really enjoyed, like sliding in turns and the fact the plane would drop like a brick once wings lost lift. I’ve seen videos of this in the MiG 21, and it is neat to see it replicated.

 

Substantial posts about FM usually quote manuals or charts or at least boast some anecdotal quotes, but I don’t see that for the complaints about the MiG.

 

For example the roll rate. There were complaints the aircraft is hard to control. The devs quote the realistic roll rate and suggest setting a curve, but it’s just met with stubborn complaints.

 

Have you tried to go into the Bug/FM section? There are in depth posts there, no point re-writing everything all the time, just do a little research :thumbup:

[NakedSquirrel]

Have you tried to go into the Bug/FM section? There are in depth posts there, no point re-writing everything all the time, just do a little research :thumbup:

 

I have. It seems like a good number have been answered as WIP or something else. I’ve just seen a number of posts like this and they don’t seem productive. Making a bucket list of bugs would be a little less vague and complaining.

[Horns]

I see a lot of these style posts but they tend to just say the FM is “wrong” without saying what exactly is wrong with performance.

 

I’ll admit I haven’t put the plane through it’s rigors in a while. There were a few aspects of the FM I have really enjoyed, like sliding in turns and the fact the plane would drop like a brick once wings lost lift. I’ve seen videos of this in the MiG 21, and it is neat to see it replicated.

 

Substantial posts about FM usually quote manuals or charts or at least boast some anecdotal quotes, but I don’t see that for the complaints about the MiG.

 

For example the roll rate. There were complaints the aircraft is hard to control. The devs quote the realistic roll rate and suggest setting a curve, but it’s just met with stubborn complaints.

 

Have you tried to go into the Bug/FM section? There are in depth posts there, no point re-writing everything all the time, just do a little research :thumbup:

 

I have. It seems like a good number have been answered as WIP or something else. I’ve just seen a number of posts like this and they don’t seem productive. Making a bucket list of bugs would be a little less vague and complaining.

 

It seems like a lot of posts refer to a known issue while awaiting a fix, which makes perfect sense at the time but it makes it tough to link mentions of issues to the detailed posts that demonstrated the existence of the issue, and it's also tough to identify whether changes were made and whether that resolved the issue.

 

Coming at this from this point in time looking backwards, a bucket list would make it easier for me to see which issues were resolved, but of course that's not the focus when identifying and rectifying issues. Thanks to you both.

[bkthunder]

Ln has a public bug tracker, however I don't know how up-to-date it is.

I know for sure I logged a few bug reports there, one was declared solved while in-fact it wasn't (an dnever has been). Anyway that could give you an idea.

Other than that, the main complaints are regarding the ASP integration and the FM (AoA) as far as I know.

Something I pointed out multiple times, but nobody really cares about it, is the bug in the Afterburner modeling, which I reported on the bug tracker but somehow, it disapeared...