msalama Posted October 20, 2018 Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) I'm suffering from an occasional hard freeze requiring a power cycle when starting up the Mi-8. It happens once in a blue moon so most of the time everything's OK, but every now and then the whole system locks up with only a light blue screen showing and the sound looping in the background. Could be something with the hardware, but somehow I'm not inclined to believe that since it only happens with the Hip and any taxing missions etc. stressing the HW never cause this to happen. Anyone else seeing this? PS/EDIT: And I should probably mention that this only happens on the Caucasus map when looking down- or upwards while starting up the chopper, i.e. when I rapidly change my viewpoint with the keyboard (no VR / Track IR here) sitting in the skipper's seat. Also, no system or DCS logs are produced since this is a hard freeze stopping everything dead. Edited October 20, 2018 by msalama The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
msalama Posted October 20, 2018 Author Posted October 20, 2018 An update. It's not actually a hard freeze, but most likely a display driver crash. I just ran a couple of missions online with a friend, and it happened again after I'd flown the Mi-8 for a while. BUT!!! To my surprise we found out that after the crash, the mission still ran flawlessly in the background, and even our Teamspeak connection was still functional! My friend was able to finish his flight, and the mission was actually running A-OK in the background while I was staring at the frozen blue screen... Very weird, but definitely _not_ a complete lockup. Investigating further. But what's alarming is that there're NO traces of this whatsoever in any of the logs on this computer - OS, HW, app, DCS, whatever. Any ideas guys? The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
Flow Posted October 22, 2018 Posted October 22, 2018 Maybe a GFX card overheat causing it to crash ? Did you overclock it ? i7 7700k • 1080Ti • 32GB @ 3200 MHz • 525GB M.2 • Oculus Rift Warthog + Pro Flight
msalama Posted October 25, 2018 Author Posted October 25, 2018 It's not overheating, I've checked. I'm running a mild OC at the moment, but this happens when I'm running the card on defaults as well. The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
msalama Posted October 25, 2018 Author Posted October 25, 2018 And I'm also starting to think this only happens under certain lighting conditions, namely when the sunlight is bright and the skies relatively clear. Doesn't happen at all when the sky is cloudy and there's rain or snow it seems. The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
TAW_Impalor Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 Too hot in the Mi-8 on sunny days, did you turn on the fans? 12900KF@5.4, 32GB DDR4@4000cl14g1, 4090, M.2, W10 Pro, Warthog HOTAS, ButtKicker, Reverb G2/OpenXR
Holbeach Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 You might find a log of this event in C/Program data/NVIDEA. .. ASUS 2600K 3.8. P8Z68-V. ASUS ROG Strix RTX 2080Ti, RAM 16gb Corsair. M2 NVME 2gb. 2 SSD. 3 HDD. 1 kW ps. X-52. Saitek pedals. ..
msalama Posted October 26, 2018 Author Posted October 26, 2018 Nope. The latest logs are from August this year. But thanks for the tip anyway, never thought of that. The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
msalama Posted October 26, 2018 Author Posted October 26, 2018 did you turn on the fans? Nah, almost turned on the del *.* though :D Seems these crashes are getting more commonplace though. Let's just hope someone at ED takes notice. The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
BitMaster Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 Have you tried a different NV driver yet ? Some NV drivers have caused my system to BSOD over the past few years. I then either installed an updated driver or went back to some older version, either way, just try another one. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
msalama Posted October 26, 2018 Author Posted October 26, 2018 Hmmm... well yeah, this admittedly is an old driver - which, OTOH, has performed very well with DCS so far. But you never know, so I'll try a more recent driver for a comparison as well. S! The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
msalama Posted October 28, 2018 Author Posted October 28, 2018 Got the most recent driver and no crashes so far. Fingers crossed. Runs somewhat worse than v388.71 though, but I'll see what I can do about that. I'll let this simmer for a while now and report back later. Thanks all. The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
msalama Posted October 30, 2018 Author Posted October 30, 2018 UPDATE: The new driver was abominable, a complete stutterfest plus bad FPS all around. Switched back to the old one, but did a deep clean reinstall where I deleted every NVidia reference in the registry, plus deleted all config data in the Windows user directories, plus ran DDU + other registry cleaning apps, plus reinstalled all system-wide C/C++ runtimes. No crashes so far - fingers crossed again - and runs great too, no stutters & FPS pretty much staying at a constant 60 F/S too. I'll keep you posted... The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
msalama Posted November 10, 2018 Author Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) UPDATE 2: nope, still happens. Both the Mi-8 and the Sabre crash the display driver now, and the problem seems worse in MP than SP. Getting kind of tired of this TBH. EDIT: and no mods were on when this happened last so it's not them either + I'm on the latest OB w/ the latest hotfix applied. Edited November 10, 2018 by msalama The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
msalama Posted November 11, 2018 Author Posted November 11, 2018 OK, making progress. Preload radius from 150000 to 50000 and no crashes so far in either AC. Seems 16GB of memory and a 4GB display adapter isn't aplenty anymore ;) The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
msalama Posted November 17, 2018 Author Posted November 17, 2018 And the saga continues. Went from 50000 to 25000, still seeing an occasional crash when I fly for a long time with lots of activity and units in the mission. So I think I'm just running out of VRAM and this actually has nothing to do with the Mi-8 or the Sabre per se. I don't know, probably just have to live with this until I get a new rig. Out for now... The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
msalama Posted February 9, 2019 Author Posted February 9, 2019 UPDATE 3: Yup, I think I finally found it for real. It's the dynamic weather. If it's cloudy and rainy and/or snowy, BAM, a complete freeze requiring a power cycle regardless of the aircraft I'm flying. I first thought I'm running out of memory and that's that, but no. I've got a couple of largish swap files running now and if I avoid such weather conditions as the one above, no freezes. So maybe ED should look into the weather system once again just to see what's happening? The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
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