first ctd for me

[pierreaf]

Hello

since the update of dcs i have ctd. I do not know why. after looking on the forum I followed the different tips: rename my directory in part saved. so this has created a new dcs . and then I performed the repair function. but it does not work. after a while in flight stopped and ctd.

here is the error log

thanks so much for help, i will appreciate . i love flying dcs.

have nice flights!

Pierre

dcs.log-20181026-193921.zip

[MadDog-IC]

Hello

since the update of dcs i have ctd. I do not know why.

 

Problems from Log:

 

1. Log indicates you have Mods installed, they aren't authenticating, if you updated with those installed, probably broke things.
   
2. Getting DirectX disconnect, so graphics card is disappearing from system so driver can't function or vise versa.
   

 

 

2018-10-26 14:43:51.117 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to parse manifest: mods/tech/apu/dcs_manifest.x86_64

2018-10-26 14:43:51.117 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to parse manifest: mods/tech/arromanches classe colossus/dcs_manifest.x86_64

2018-10-26 14:43:51.117 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to parse manifest: mods/tech/alligator 1171/dcs_manifest.x86_64

2018-10-26 14:43:51.117 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to parse manifest: mods/tech/bmw-r75/dcs_manifest.x86_64

2018-10-26 14:43:51.131 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to parse manifest: mods/tech/wwii bismark/dcs_manifest.x86_64

2018-10-26 14:43:51.131 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to parse manifest: mods/tech/wwii rm roma/dcs_manifest.x86_64

2018-10-26 14:43:51.176 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded (mm) mods/tech/wwii units/dcs_module.dll.crypt

2018-10-26 14:43:51.481 ERROR SECURITYCONTROL: Failed to parse manifest: mods/aircraft/ms_500/dcs_manifest.x86_64

 

2018-10-26 18:16:26.441 ERROR DX11BACKEND: DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0006

2018-10-26 19:38:41.423 WARNING LOG: 351247 duplicate message(s) skipped.

2018-10-26 19:38:41.423 ERROR DX11BACKEND: failed to create vertex buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED

2018-10-26 19:38:41.424 INFO EDCORE: try to write dump information

2018-10-26 19:38:41.432 INFO EDCORE: # -------------- 20181026-193921 --------------

2018-10-26 19:38:41.446 INFO EDCORE: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll

2018-10-26 19:38:41.462 INFO EDCORE: # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 9A1227B0 00:00000000

2018-10-26 19:38:41.476 INFO EDCORE: 00000000 00000000 0000:00000000

2018-10-26 19:38:41.492 INFO EDCORE: 9A1227B0 004FD660 0000:00000000 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll CreateDirect3D11SurfaceFromDXGISurface()+4E7D0

 

 

Resolution:

 

1. Remove Mods manually or run DCS_updater cleanup to check for non-standard DCS files (Left over MODS) and allow it to remove them for you.
   
2. Usually bad nvidia graphics driver install causes the directx problem, would recommend going back a version, and using DDU to clean out all traces of driver and reloading. (Personally I had issues with v416.xx, but v411.70 seems to work better for me and win8.1), you mileage may vary.
   
3. Once steps 1 and 2 done, re-run DCS and check that it now runs correctly, then slowly introduce you MODS back in one at a time, just to see if any of them break DCS again.
   

Regards, Ian.

Edited October 26, 2018 by MadDog-IC

[pierreaf]

Hello Ian,

Thanks'so much for the help and Quick answer.i appreciate very much.

Just two,questions because i am not so good on computer..

Where can i find dcs updater Cleanup ?

Use ddu to clean?whats ddu ?

Thanks

Best regards

Pierre

[pierreaf]

Hello,again

No disturb, îve found the two question s answers by myself on internet.

Thanks again and let you know soon if the sim is working well'again.

Nice flights to you

Regards

Pierre

[pierreaf]

good evening

I come back to you because I always have a ctd after 10/20 minutes of flight. I tested for several weeks without success. however, I did a repair, handed the old driver graphic n vidia and removed all the mods ..

 

I do not know where to look

 

I will appreciate your help and thank you in advance

 

good flights to you all

 

Pierre

dxdiag.txt

[MadDog-IC]

Will need the following info:

 

1. To see one of your current DCS.log files produced when CTD happened.
   
2. What mission / missions are you using when problem happens ???
   
3. What aircraft you flying when it happens ???
   
4. Does it happen in Single player and / or Multiplayer when it CTD ???
   

Dxdiag.txt looks ok, so far as graphics drivers installation.

 

Regards, Ian.

[pierreaf]

hi Ian,

thanks for the quick reply and help.

log file attached

miz is a simple i ve created, very simple.

aircraft f18

single player

regards,

Pierre

dcs.log-20181114-231351.zip

fa18_batumi_vol solo radio tacan_ essai.miz

[MadDog-IC]

hi Ian,

 

miz is a simple i've created, very simple.

aircraft f18 single player

 

Log looks really clean except for that dreaded DirectX error still, the one that is causing a lot of problems with mainly GTX-1080 based cards.

 

Quote from another user:

The problem can arise if the gpu bottlenecks the cpu or vice versa, and then you get the error 'failed to map the vertex buffer . . . '.

 

It can be caused by quite a few things:

 

1. Including too high settings in the game.
   
2. A driver issue.
   
3. Weak CPU and strong GPU and vice versa.
   
4. Corrupt file(s).
   
5. Faulty GPU (maybe).
   
6. Not enough system RAM.
   
7. Not enough VRAM.
   
8. Other hardware issues.
   

Simply, Vertex buffers are used to optimise or share processing by both the CPU and the GPU. Vertex Buffers provide us with a mechanism of being able to load vertex buffer data into the CPU (and RAM), while at the same time allowing the GPU to process an earlier batch of vertex data. This gives us a good image at reasonable frame rates.

 

Problem talked about in other ED forum:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=157540

 

I really can't see anything wrong within the log provided, virtually no errors at all shown, which would suggest to me, that DCS is functioning reasonably well, but your system has some issue with GPU processing for DCS.

 

Suggestions:

 

1. Some revisions of Window 10 updates have caused issues in the past and had to be rolled back to fix the issues, but I don't run Win 10 so I can't state what works and what doesn't.
   
2. As your physical system RAM is only 12gb I would increase your Windows Pagefile to 32gb, but try 52gb or system managed as well (just a hunch, test and see if it makes any difference at those three settings).
   
3. Try Deleting all files in the: "C:\Users\Pierre\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\fxo" and "C:\Users\Pierre\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\metashaders2" folders.
   
4. If you have bit defender or Antivirus enabled, put a entry in their exclusion lists for the DCS folder, so scanner will not be doing on the fly checking or files as DCS runs.
   
5. Try reducing some graphical settings in DCS config, Preload radius and other heavy settings.
   
6. Try running system in 1080p temporarily instead of 4k res to see if that make a difference.
   
7. Use GPU-z or MSI afterburner utility to monitor what performance your card is doing when running game (Any anomolies).
   
8. Try DCS on a faster SSD drive maybe.
   
9. Stuck for anymore suggestions.
   

Regards, Ian.

Edited November 15, 2018 by MadDog-IC

[pierreaf]

Dear Ian,

Thanks so much.Whaouu for the newbie that i am , seems complicated !!

but ive done 1 till number 6 points.

and thats going worst.

now it ctd on the ground or just after five minutes.

i ve tried another planes … same ctd.

what to do ?repair again?

i ve change my antivirus in case Windows defender was on cause. i use avast now.. but same problems..

i havent that troubles two month ago. i dont know what had changed..

here is the news log

if you can have a look, thanks

nice Week end.

i stay on the ground :(

dcs.log-20181116-173943.zip

[pierreaf]

Hi again,

All the weekend i ve tried to find a solution of my ctd. No way ...

i Ve change planes, Maps and try all the things i Ve found on the forum.,follow the advice .. no way...

not i cannot fly for more 10 minutes. Then ctd.

Any more idéal?

Help Will be so appreciate.

I love flying Dcs ,that make me happy

Thanks'in advance

Pierre

[pierreaf]

Any more idea and not idéal ! Bad translation. Sorry

[Svsmokey]

Any more idea and not idéal ! Bad translation. Sorry

 

Please post system specifications and a screenshot of your DCS graphics settings .

Edited November 18, 2018 by Svsmokey

[MadDog-IC]

Hi again,

All the weekend i've tried to find a solution of my CTD. No way ...

I've changed planes, Maps and try all the things I've found on the forum,followed the advice .. no way...

I can't fly for more 10 minutes. Then ctd.

 

So far there is at least two users with this issue in DCS, one with Win8.1 and Win10 (Both can't fly for more than 10-20 minutes without CTD and have exactly the same error in the DCS.log).

 

I have googled the issue to find a solution, hence, my large post earlier, there is no clear cut answer, DCS is not the only game having this issue so it is more of a Windows (Patches or settings), Nvidia (GPU drivers or settings) or general hardware conflicts (Overheating CPU, GPU or Overclocked CPU, GPU, RAM or a PSU that can't deliver enough power on demand), this goes beyond just simple troubleshooting.

 

This one is just too hard to talk you through advanced things to try, I have never had the issue so can't replicate it. Hopefully ED or some other users may be able to help you.

 

Regards, Ian.

[pierreaf]

Thanks to you all for the help and quick answers.

here are the dcs graphics and specifications.And the last log ( ctd this afternoon)

ive tried lower resolution and ctd after 10 min i ve tested with all differents planes and all differents maps that i have.ctd.

gggr windows updates...

it was working good 1 month ago.

i continue to search....

regards,

Pierre

composants pc_details.txt

dcs.log-20181119-161024.zip

[Svsmokey]

That certainly poses more questions than it answered !

 

1 : why is your 1080ti reporting 4 gig vram ?

 

2: 12 gig ddr3 @533 mhz running VERY high graphics settings (down-sampling , 4X MSAA , SSAA , plus all the textueres , effects , etc .)

 

3 : The same with a I7-950 ?

 

It appears you have a massively unbalanced system , and are asking way too much of your ram and CPU

 

I can only suggest dialing down your graphics settings in DCS . (AA , terrain textures , clutter/ trees , checkboxes and terrain shadows , to name a few)

Edited November 19, 2018 by Svsmokey

[Svsmokey]

I would also suggest downloading MSI afterburner . It provides invaluable troubleshooting information via charting . I would be particularly interested in CPU temps and ram usage .

[pierreaf]

Thanks so much Svsmokey

i will try but i am no good in computer. i dont excatly know what to do.in the game ist ok but computer ... MSI afterburner , ram ...

 

you right i think my 1080 ti is 8 gig.. so .. i have to check. dont know how.

i donwgrade now the settings and have a look whats going on.. let you know soon.

what ssaa msaa do you recommand?

thanks again

[Svsmokey]

1080ti is 11 gig , 1080 is 8 .

Regarding AA , MXAA x2 , SSAA off .

 

Afterburner is a free download , and is very easy to set up .

Edited November 19, 2018 by Svsmokey

[pierreaf]

Thanks very much, i appreciate and thanks for the pm

[unknown]

1080ti is 13 gig , 1080 is 8 .

Regarding AA , MXAA x2 , SSAA off .

 

Afterburner is a free download , and is very easy to set up .

It's actually 11gig for the 1080ti ;)

 

@pierreaf

The system specifications that you posted "composants pc_details.txt" is looking very strange.

 

EDIT: Found the dxdiag in the zip file.

Edited November 19, 2018 by unknown

[Svsmokey]

It's actually 11gig for the 1080ti ;)

 

@pierreaf

The system specifications that you posted "composants pc_details.txt" is looking very strange.

 

EDIT: Found the dxdiag in the zip file.

 

Quite right . Edited . And i certainly agree about the system specs .

[unknown]

Quite right . Edited . And i certainly agree about the system specs .

 

In the zip file is the dxdiag file, there the specs are looking ok.

 

@pierreaf

In the crash log from DCS you can find that there seems to be a problem with your gpu driver

2018-11-19 16:10:24.662 [b]ERROR   DX11BACKEND: failed to create vertex buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED[/b]
2018-11-19 16:10:24.663 INFO    EDCORE: try to write dump information
2018-11-19 16:10:24.674 INFO    EDCORE: # -------------- 20181119-161024 --------------
2018-11-19 16:10:24.692 [b]INFO    EDCORE: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll[/b]

In your dxdiag file you can find the same information

Signature du problème : 
P1 : DCS.exe
P2 : 2.5.3.23954
P3 : 5be48c8b
[b]P4 : d3d11.dll[/b]

 

Like MadDog-IC already said, this could be a gpu-driver problem. I can see from the dxdiag that you are using the 416.34 driver, i'm using the 416.81 driver and have no problems. Could you please update your gpu driver to 416.81(like i have) or to the newer 416.94? Please do a reinstallation of the driver and don't install it over the existing one.

 

After you updated your gpu driver, please go to your "C:\Users"your username"\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta" folder and delete the "fxo", "metashaders"(if you have one) and "metashaders2" folder. Start DCS and test if it's still crashing.

[pierreaf]

Thanks Unknown for trying to help me.

I Will be looking to morrow morning to that and let you know.

I cross the fingers!!

Regards,

Pierre

[pierreaf]

hi again,

ive done what you said ( clean driver with ddu (mode sans echec) , new install 416.81 , delete folders ) and test . exactly the same . Still crash after 5-10 min...

i continue searching , i want to fly dcs again :):) i love flying dcs :)

keep on touch !

Pierre

[unknown]

Hi pierreaf,

sorry to hear that this didn't helped you. :( Do you have any other programmes running in the background? (HW-logging, GeforeExperience, video-capture...) Do you run any mods on your DCS installation? Is anything overclocked, CPU, GPU, RAM? The only thing in that log is that "DX11BACKEND: failed to create vertex buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED" error and thats something GPU/Driver related....very strange. Last thing you could try is to install a programm to log your CPU clock/temp, RAM usage and GPU clock/temp/VRAM usage and start DCS hoping that they log something useful. I think you already tried this but for test purposes you could try again in 1080p and with the preset low in DCS(restart DCS after choosing that preset, just to be sure...).