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Instant Action - MiG-21BIS - Nevada Map - Dogfight (German F-4E Phantom II)

 

 

When I fly this Instant Action Mission, we start with the F-4 (about 1,500 ft) in front and perpendicular to the MiG-21 Crossing Left to Right at equal energy states.

 

As I (in MiG-21) ease into a Right Turn (and waiting for the Burner to Light) to point my nose at the F-4, the F-4 Zoom Climbs and then 180s back into my face. By the time the MiG-21 AB lights and I can pull a little tighter - the F-4 has completed his 180 and we are Nose to Nose.

 

So by the time I basically turn 90 right - the F-4 has climbed 2,000 ft above me and reversed 180 degrees - out-turning me by 90 degrees in the same amount of time.

 

These Pesky Germans are one tough adversary !

 

And yes - I understand God's 'G' (the Egg) and why the F-4 (with Power Advantage) fights in the Vertical against the MiG-21.

 

But my question is (based on the F-4's phenomenal performance), is this realistic ?

 

Am I doomed to keep getting my Behind kicked by some Bratwurst eatin Aces ?

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It isn't to hard in this engagement you're the angle fighter and have lots of speeds to work with his real strength is sustained turn but you own all the instantaneous turning speeds sub 1000kmh when he goes vertical build speed and do a horizontal turn if you end up nose to nose again merge and go for a one circle turn right after that into him theblast thing you want is to give him more time and space to bring his nose onto you

This should help you see where you and he holds the advantage

 

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It isn't to hard in this engagement you're the angle fighter and have lots of speeds to work with his real strength is sustained turn but you own all the instantaneous turning speeds sub 1000kmh when he goes vertical build speed and do a horizontal turn if you end up nose to nose again merge and go for a one circle turn right after that into him theblast thing you want is to give him more time and space to bring his nose onto you

This should help you see where you and he holds the advantage

 

k9ge6valcwhz.png

 

Thank You for the Info !

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Yeah i dont think the f4e fm is all that good. I find it easier to fight the F5 which should have the advantage.

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