A Worthy Module for the Hanger?

[toilet2000]

With so many deeply dissapointed people around maybe one of them is willing to do a good deed and gift his license to the OP?

 

He then could finally find his peace and the OP can see if he likes what is offered without going bankrupt in the process.

 

Win - Win I´d say.

 

There’s no way to gift an already activated and binded license. That, and it’s against DCS World EULA.

[Harlikwin]

I agree with some of the opinions here. The Harrier is definitely not worth 69€. 30€ is the max admissible price in its current state.

 

I'll advise you to wait until it get some love or a 50% price reduction.

 

That being said, I admit that I have some fun with it. It can do the job. But it's not what we want on a simulator. Participating to the open beta and do bug report is also a good thing.

 

The Mirage 2000 is good. I'm currently at my type rating on 2000 and instructors say good things about the Razbam's 2000C. It is not complete or 100% realistic though. Can't wait for the mid-life overhaul !

 

So whats missing and whats not 100% realistic if you don't mind me asking?

[Harlikwin]

Harrier is pretty bad at the moment. Probably the most bugged, unfinished and inaccurate module in DCS echo system. I have all modules and it does not hold up. Hopefully Razbam will give it the attention it needs.

 

You can still have fun with it, but for me the simulation and systems are sub-par. Again, hopefully it won’t stay that way.

 

Honestly I think this is part of the frustration, the harrier is a very cool and unique aircraft, and I think alot of people really really want it to "work" at the same level as the A10C in terms of systems modeling. And yeah I hope Razbam fixes it, because it has the potential to be an amazing module.

[Cytt0rak]

So whats missing and whats not 100% realistic if you don't mind me asking?

 

There was a missing features post in somewhere in its respective subforum. But realism side it will get as realistic as possible depending on the real owner of plane aka AdA. These are active service planes and the products we have are mostly limited in some ways. Like AoA of F/A-18, A-10's thrust-power or speed ( don't really know the real issue there is a big forum topic about this )

[Low Blow]

At the very least wait for a sale.

 

Bugs are rampant, a lot of features are missing. A lot of people mistake bugs and unfinished systems for not knowing how they work.

 

The thing is, almost every single mission the Harrier is supposed to do is completely or partially blocked by a bug or a missing feature. Examples:

 

CAS: TPOD is extremely buggy. Not only can you not slave the TPOD to a waypoint or the A/C line of sight (the opposite is true, but really buggy, as soon as you designate the TPOD changes for the DMT page and you loose your TPOD picture), but moving target track is not working, the laser designation is extremely limited in range (compared to IRL counterpart). Moreover, the inertia of asymetric load is absolutely ridiculous and overdone (according to RL Harrier pilots) making it hard to stay on station while pickling off one GBU at a time. On top of that, the CAS page isn’t implemented, as is the CAS Datalink that the JTAC are supposed to be using. That, with a broken coordinate input system (unable to input a waypoint if no waypoint are present at first, no "precise" decimal waypoints as is required for accurate weapon delivery) and no JDAM makes for a hard time doing modern CAS.

 

Low level strike: AUTO bombing symbology is simply broken and unhelpful. One of the most useful feature of the Harrier for low level delivery (CCIP to AUTO designation) is not implemented.

 

Night strike: broken FLIR, no hotspot tracker, no NAVFLIR calibration means you can’t even CCIP correctly.

 

Battlefield Air Interdiction: the Maverick implementation is extremely broken in the Harrier. No ground stabilize, no IR Cool switch functionality and you can’t even align the seeker without losing a MFCD for 3 minutes (because as soon as you change the page, it resets it). No TPOD to Mav handoff because of the broken TPOD. Controlling the seeker is actually extremely buggy, because you have to have the seeker page on the left MFCD to control it but it appears by default on the right MFCD (where it shouldn’t even show at all IRL).

 

And yeah, it could be a pretty good module if Razbam actually did something. But it’s been in the dark for the last 6 months (ie no new features, extremely minor bug fixes). Even their bugtracker is updated maybe once per month, at tops.

 

Would not recommend, certainly not at full price.

 

+1 except I would recommend it if the Devs were more active in squashing the bugs that their customers have been bringing to their attention for over a year now. The most glaring example of this is their outright refusal to acknowledge or provide us with any kind of meaningful response regarding the clearly incorrect implementation of the auto bombing cue (PIBL) which in its current form is not ground stabilised and extremely difficult to use.

Edited February 1, 2019 by Low Blow