blklobo Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 I'm now make a mission for helicopter and Harrier. I want make them can be re-arming and re-fueling in the specific area. I tried all of my best as below, - Place all coalition supply units - Place all coalition supply depots - Place all coalition FARP(Helipads) It was good when I place FARP and install helicopters on it with "start from ramp" not "start from ground". but as you aware DCS FARP modeling is so oldest. I want dont use Helipad in static object. I want just re-arming and re-fueling in road side or airstrip. was I missing something? or.. it is impossible? I was find all method in DCS Script API, MIST and MOOSE in entire today. Sad.
Backdraft Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 I am looking for info on this as well. Tried and Tried any help please would be great
Captain Orso Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 The DCS in-game helipads and FARP's do NOT play well with Harriers AT ALL. They are only made for helicopters. I can only suggest SUNTSAG's Marsden Farp pads. They can be a bit tricky to place, because you must place them on absolutely flat ground, otherwise one or more edges stickup in the air and can cause catastrophic failures if you try to taxi over such an edge. With the Marsden Farps you don't need to add any supply vehicles for them to work, but you can just to liven up the site. With the DCS FARPS you MUST add a fuel, and an ammo truck, and a command post IIRC, but at an airfield you should have access to supplies per default, although you can control what is available at a field, if anything at all, but I've never done that so I cant really say more about it. When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1
QuiGon Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 I want dont use Helipad in static object. I want just re-arming and re-fueling in road side or airstrip. was I missing something? or.. it is impossible? I was find all method in DCS Script API, MIST and MOOSE in entire today. Sad. That's only possible with the AJS-37 Viggen, which has this as a special feature. No other aircraft can rearm/refuel on a roadside. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
QuiGon Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 The DCS in-game helipads and FARP's do NOT play well with Harriers AT ALL. They are only made for helicopters. FARPs work fine with all kind of aircraft. You can even rearm/refuel a Hornet on them. The OP even said, that it worked fine on a FARP, but he is looking for a way to do it without a FARP. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Captain Orso Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 Yes, it sounds like he's spawning an empty Harrier on top of a Farp and then arming it. Try operating from a Farp, ie landing and taking off from them. Landing is not the issue, except for other aircraft and vehicles getting in the way, because there is no order to using them with Harriers. They are simply too small for Harriers to use them reasonably. STO will only coincidentally work if the wind is blowing in the correct direction, and no other aircraft or vehicles are in the way; they are simply not made for Harriers. Place a Farp next to a road and try to land on the road and then roll up onto the Farp. You know what happens? *BOOM* fiery explosion, that's what happens. I've tested using the DCS Farps extensively, and it just doesn't work with Harriers. When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1
Floydii Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 Harriers work fine from the large FARP if you use the grassy half of the FARP square that doesn't have helipads on it. As long as you don't try to take off with the wind behind you, or load up to max weight, STOL takeoffs (per launching from the Tarawa) are very doable.
Captain Orso Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 IF if if, if no one and nothing is in the way of your takeoff on the FARP, if the wind is blowing in the right direction, if you limit your loadout, and if you don't want to operate like in the real world off a large cleared road. It's a solution, but it's poor excuse for a solution, and we should have a much better solution. When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1
QuiGon Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 You guys are totally missing the point of this thread. The OP asked for rearming and refueling, not if it is reasonable to operate from a FARP... Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
fargo007 Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 It's not possible to rearm/refuel WITHOUT a farp object. Have fun. Don't suck. Kill bad guys. https://discord.gg/blacksharkden/
TBone Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 How about Helos on the Tarawa? They land but no refuel/rearm or departure.
Captain Orso Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 You guys are totally missing the point of this thread. The OP asked for rearming and refueling, not if it is reasonable to operate from a FARP... It's not possible to rearm/refuel WITHOUT a farp object. This is like saying, I want to go to a doctor who will checks my teeth for caries, and my general oral hygiene and health, who can fix caries and other health issues with my teeth, and do preventative medical treatments, but I don't want to go to a dentist..... :doh: If you had said, I don't like the DCS FARP's and the ones from SUNTSAG are fine for SP, but you won't find them in MP, I would agree 100%. But that's not what OP asked about. How about Helos on the Tarawa? They land but no refuel/rearm or departure. AI aircraft don't rearm or refuel at all. It's just not within in their programmed abilities, unfortunately :( When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1
Chef98 Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 At first I did it with a Heli pad, it worked with the harrier, maybe you can try to make the helipad invisible but I never tryed. IF the viggen team works for all planes here is a video how to do it. Also here I never tryed
fargo007 Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 This is like saying, I want to go to a doctor who will checks my teeth for caries, and my general oral hygiene and health, who can fix caries and other health issues with my teeth, and do preventative medical treatments, but I don't want to go to a dentist..... :doh: If you had said, I don't like the DCS FARP's and the ones from SUNTSAG are fine for SP, but you won't find them in MP, I would agree 100%. But that's not what OP asked about. AI aircraft don't rearm or refuel at all. It's just not within in their programmed abilities, unfortunately :( The title of the topic is "How to Ground Re-Arming and Re-Fueling." Pointing out that a FARP object is required for this is absolutely relevant to that. Thanks for the nonsense dissertation anyway. Have fun. Don't suck. Kill bad guys. https://discord.gg/blacksharkden/
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