jackmckay Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 J11 looks nerfed like never before. G blackouts on mild turn, pilot blacks out in ANY situation in 2 secs - no recovery, -G like 2-3 goes into flat spin, rudder deflection over 800km/h rips tail off, FCS off is matter of history not option ain any case, recovery from dive takes too much time to pull up - not enough time to recover if subtle -G correction is done in last phase of attack, countermeasures don't work in no situation against anything reasonable, thrust is greatly reduced and fact that J11/Su27 has most powerful engines in game means nothing as building up speed takes forever, IR sensor range and sensitivity is reduced to 20%, radar lock brakes just at firing range as target is not maneuvering, I could go on and on.. its in game capabilities are reduced to 25% of actual. What the hell are you guys doing to that plane, taking the fact that it DIDN'T WORK THAT WAY years after release. What crime it have done to you there in ED? Why do you hate Flankers so much? I don't get you, really. :flowers::flowers::flowers:
razo+r Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 Reduced performance to what reference/source? Also, providing a track/video would be more helpful than a handfull of sentences whithout lots of details.
jackmckay Posted June 3, 2019 Author Posted June 3, 2019 Consider me a test pilot. Its all my subjective personal observation supported by countless hours spent in that air frame in DCS. You can always compare what it used to be against what it is now. You can always read speed trade against time when in turn and speed buildup in a dive supported by max thrust. I feel that sluggishness that wasn't there before. I feel that G blackout sensitivity that wasn't there before. I feel that structural failures that weren't there before. What is going on with J11? Something not traced in change-logs for sure.
AeriaGloria Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 The PFM is exactly the same as flanker b. You can go to the Deka forum and ask. I’m sure they will look at a track. G tolerance is simulated you have to make some tight turns to warm up before your pilot will go 8g without blacking out. Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
HWasp Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 J11 looks nerfed like never before. G blackouts on mild turn, pilot blacks out in ANY situation in 2 secs - no recovery, -G like 2-3 goes into flat spin, rudder deflection over 800km/h rips tail off, FCS off is matter of history not option ain any case, recovery from dive takes too much time to pull up - not enough time to recover if subtle -G correction is done in last phase of attack, countermeasures don't work in no situation against anything reasonable, thrust is greatly reduced and fact that J11/Su27 has most powerful engines in game means nothing as building up speed takes forever, IR sensor range and sensitivity is reduced to 20%, radar lock brakes just at firing range as target is not maneuvering, I could go on and on.. its in game capabilities are reduced to 25% of actual. What the hell are you guys doing to that plane, taking the fact that it DIDN'T WORK THAT WAY years after release. What crime it have done to you there in ED? Why do you hate Flankers so much? I don't get you, really. :flowers::flowers::flowers: Instead of this useless rant, you could have used that time to pick a problem, let's say pilot G tolerance, and test it against another plane for reference. Post the results with a track, and if there is a large difference to let's say the Su-27 or F-15, than you already have a valid bug report. This would take like 10 minutes. If you whish to achieve anything with your posts (given IF there is any real bug), you should take a slightly more intelligent approach to this.
AeriaGloria Posted June 5, 2019 Posted June 5, 2019 Good words Wasp Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
jackmckay Posted June 5, 2019 Author Posted June 5, 2019 I have decreased tolerance to something trivial to correct if already tested before. I don't get that serial of downgrades. My MP time is precious to me and not to waste cos of someone is playing with control knobs just to suit its current needs. That is what I think. Cos not fixing that performance and sensitivity curves of systems that are going drift drastically is not really professional. You cant miss 50% of some RL value. It looks deliberate..but, you can start looking from item to item. G-sensitivity and blackout behavior is not just random value. It should be similar for all pilots in game.
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