owennealkennygmail.com Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 I have been playing DCS using SteamVR for about a month on my new Odessey+ trying to get the best settings. About a week ago both DCS and SteamVr refused to load. Both of them would log in to my account and say that they were loading. DCS would stop with a runtime error and SteamVR simply starts loading and then disappears. DCS will not run in normal 2d version either. I also had blackscreen issues which seem to have gone now that I have reset Windows 10. Nothing that I have done has changed SteamVR or DCS. I have uninstalled and reinstalled SteamVR with no change. If I want to uninstall and reinstall DCS it would be a big download and cost me an activation on the modules I presume. I cannot get onto DCS to deactivate the modules and have plenty of lives left so I'm not too worried about that aspect. This all seems to have happened after the last Windows 10 update. I have stress tested all of the hardware and can't find any issues there. Has anybody got any ideas??:helpsmilie: Owen i5 4670 , Asrock Z87 pro4 , MSI 2070 8gb , 16gb ram , Odyssey+ , Thrustmaster 16000 , mouse and keyboard.
toutenglisse Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 Do a DCS repair (with cleanup option) : https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=114030 It will repair, cleanup, and reinstall/check runtimes. In user\savegames\DCS\Mods folder remove mods you eventually have installed, and delete, in user\savegames\DCS\config\ the file options.lua (clean reset of DCS settings). Usually this allow to load DCS again. Eventually reinstall gpu driver.
owennealkennygmail.com Posted June 24, 2019 Author Posted June 24, 2019 Hi thanks for the advice. I have now done all of those things with no change whatsoever. My wife has a computer that she uses for the internet and bill paying etc. It too has died with blackscreen issues. If I reset it - reload windows keeping her settings - it works until it is turned off and then fails again and will not restart. It just seems too much of a coincidence that they have both started playing up at the same time with similar symptoms. I'll keep trying but I am beginning to think that the Windows update is responsible. Maybe it only effects older computers like ours. Owen i5 4670 , Asrock Z87 pro4 , MSI 2070 8gb , 16gb ram , Odyssey+ , Thrustmaster 16000 , mouse and keyboard.
toutenglisse Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 Yes it's possible - even more if it's the only event that matches with your issue on 2 different computers. Sorry I can't help.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted June 25, 2019 ED Team Posted June 25, 2019 Hi please make sure windows and all drivers are up to date. If you are still having issues please attach your dcs.log which can be found in the saved games folder in the dcs folder and logs. Also please let us know your system spec. thank you. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
owennealkennygmail.com Posted June 26, 2019 Author Posted June 26, 2019 Hi BigNewy, I am having trouble with windows 10 and I believe that my problems with DCS and steam are probably caused by that. I have been wasting most of the day for the last week or more trying to sort out windows with no success. Any clues to what is going on may help with the other issues.I'll try to attach the logs in case they provide any ideas. === Log opened UTC 2019-06-26 03:08:05 2019-06-26 03:08:05.632 INFO DCS: Command line: "E:\DCS\DCS World\bin/DCS.exe" 2019-06-26 03:08:05.632 INFO DCS: DCS/2.5.4.30386 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.18362) 2019-06-26 03:08:05.833 INFO DCS: Hwid: UjZg4g_YBp2kRsl5DArX-YJCpcTuoVOUf0Ro2Q 2019-06-26 03:08:05.833 INFO DCS: DCS revision: 150381 2019-06-26 03:08:05.833 INFO DCS: Renderer revision: 19058 2019-06-26 03:08:05.833 INFO DCS: Terrain revision: 18978 2019-06-26 03:08:05.833 INFO DCS: CPU cores: 4, threads: 4, System RAM: 16314 MB, Pagefile: 19258 MB 2019-06-26 03:08:05.859 INFO EDCORE: (dDispatcher)enterToState_:0 2019-06-26 03:08:05.883 INFO Dispatcher: 2019/6/26 13:08 V1803061700 2019-06-26 03:08:05.920 INFO INPUT: Device [Keyboard] created deviceId = -1 2019-06-26 03:08:05.951 INFO INPUT: Device [Mouse] created deviceId = -1 2019-06-26 03:08:05.980 INFO SOUND: Using driver: xaudio29 2019-06-26 03:08:06.013 INFO SOUND: Found 3 available audio device(s): 2019-06-26 03:08:06.013 INFO SOUND: 0: ID: "\\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{10a6be9a-dd97-49f3-8189-cd0407d7378a}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}", Name: "Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)" 2019-06-26 03:08:06.013 INFO SOUND: 1: ID: "\\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{4e34dc1a-2eee-46a4-bfe1-ed2acac44a0a}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}", Name: "Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)" 2019-06-26 03:08:06.013 INFO SOUND: 2: ID: "\\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{435f3f30-424d-4dff-94c5-a0c81243242d}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}", Name: "MONITOR (2- NVIDIA High Definition Audio)" 2019-06-26 03:08:06.327 INFO SOUND: loaded 1318 sdefs from "sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:06.327 INFO SOUNDER: Preloading Sounders from Sounds\Sounders 2019-06-26 03:08:06.432 ERROR NET: HTTP request dcs:login failed with error 6: Couldn't resolve host name 2019-06-26 03:08:06.432 INFO NET: Login server has timed out. 2019-06-26 03:08:06.919 INFO DCS: Loading cached auth data... 2019-06-26 03:08:06.934 INFO NET: cached auth mode. 2019-06-26 03:08:06.934 INFO DCS: Login failed, using cached auth for offline mode. 2019-06-26 03:08:10.443 INFO Dispatcher: Loading installed modules... 2019-06-26 03:08:10.928 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded (mm) mods/tech/wwii units/dcs_module.dll.crypt 2019-06-26 03:08:12.534 INFO Scripting: OBSOLETE mount_vfs_sound_path() used in ./CoreMods/aircraft/AJS37/entry.lua 2019-06-26 03:08:16.691 INFO Scripting: PLUGINS START------------------------------------------------- 2019-06-26 03:08:16.703 INFO SOUNDER: Preloading Sounders from .\CoreMods\tech\TechWeaponPack\Sounds\Sounders 2019-06-26 03:08:16.737 INFO SOUNDER: Preloading Sounders from .\CoreMods\tech\USS John C Stennis\Sounds\Sounders 2019-06-26 03:08:16.756 INFO SOUND: loaded 15 sdefs from ".\coremods\aircraft\av8bna\sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:16.756 INFO SOUNDER: Preloading Sounders from .\CoreMods\aircraft\AV8BNA\Sounds\Sounders 2019-06-26 03:08:16.760 WARNING EDCORE: Source ./CoreMods/aircraft/AV8BNA/Shapes is already mounted to the same mount /models/. 2019-06-26 03:08:16.785 INFO SOUND: loaded 9 sdefs from ".\coremods\aircraft\c-101\sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:16.807 WARNING EDCORE: Source ./CoreMods/aircraft/C-101/Liveries is already mounted to the same mount /textures//liveries/. 2019-06-26 03:08:16.813 INFO SOUND: loaded 12 sdefs from ".\coremods\aircraft\chinaassetpack\sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:16.813 INFO SOUNDER: Preloading Sounders from .\CoreMods\aircraft\ChinaAssetPack\Sounds\Sounders 2019-06-26 03:08:16.825 INFO SOUND: loaded 5 sdefs from ".\coremods\aircraft\christen eagle ii\sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:16.829 ERROR EDCORE: Can't mount coremods/aircraft/christen eagle ii/textures2. Drivers errors: 2019-06-26 03:08:16.829 ERROR EDCORE: EDCDriver: there is no directory coremods/aircraft/christen eagle ii/textures2.edc 2019-06-26 03:08:16.829 ERROR EDCORE: FSDriver: there is no directory coremods/aircraft/christen eagle ii/textures2 2019-06-26 03:08:16.829 ERROR EDCORE: ZipDriver: Can't open zip archive coremods/aircraft/christen eagle ii/textures2.zip. 2019-06-26 03:08:16.860 INFO SOUND: loaded 26 sdefs from ".\coremods\aircraft\f14\sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:16.861 INFO SOUNDER: Preloading Sounders from .\CoreMods\aircraft\F14\Sounds\Sounders 2019-06-26 03:08:16.862 ERROR EDCORE: Can't mount coremods/aircraft/f14/textures/lns_f14_exterior. Drivers errors: 2019-06-26 03:08:16.862 ERROR EDCORE: EDCDriver: there is no directory coremods/aircraft/f14/textures/lns_f14_exterior.edc 2019-06-26 03:08:16.862 ERROR EDCORE: FSDriver: there is no directory coremods/aircraft/f14/textures/lns_f14_exterior 2019-06-26 03:08:16.862 ERROR EDCORE: ZipDriver: Can't open zip archive coremods/aircraft/f14/textures/lns_f14_exterior.zip. 2019-06-26 03:08:16.879 INFO SOUND: loaded 28 sdefs from ".\coremods\aircraft\i-16\sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:16.891 INFO SOUND: loaded 19 sdefs from ".\coremods\aircraft\m-2000c\sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:16.901 INFO SOUND: loaded 7 sdefs from ".\coremods\aircraft\mig-21bis\sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:16.909 INFO SOUND: loaded 2 sdefs from ".\coremods\aircraft\sa342\sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:16.939 INFO SOUND: loaded 42 sdefs from ".\mods\tech\wwii units\sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:16.939 INFO SOUNDER: Preloading Sounders from .\Mods\tech\WWII Units\Sounds\Sounders 2019-06-26 03:08:17.055 INFO SOUND: loaded 50 sdefs from ".\mods\aircraft\av8bna\sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:17.077 INFO SOUND: loaded 70 sdefs from ".\mods\aircraft\bf-109k-4\sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:17.093 INFO SOUND: loaded 53 sdefs from ".\mods\aircraft\f-86\sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:17.129 INFO SOUND: loaded 103 sdefs from ".\mods\aircraft\fa-18c\sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:17.148 INFO SOUND: loaded 61 sdefs from ".\mods\aircraft\fw-190d9\sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:17.160 INFO SOUND: loaded 4 sdefs from ".\mods\aircraft\ka-50\sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:17.181 INFO SOUND: loaded 72 sdefs from ".\mods\aircraft\mig-15bis\sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:17.211 INFO SOUND: loaded 84 sdefs from ".\mods\aircraft\spitfirelfmkix\sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:17.222 INFO SOUND: loaded 21 sdefs from ".\mods\aircraft\uh-1h\sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:17.242 INFO SOUND: loaded 62 sdefs from ".\mods\aircraft\yak-52\sounds\sdef" 2019-06-26 03:08:17.248 INFO Scripting: plugin: SKIPPED 'A-10A by Eagle Dynamics': disabled by 'Flaming Cliffs by Eagle Dynamics' 2019-06-26 03:08:17.248 INFO Scripting: plugin: SKIPPED 'F-15C': disabled by 'Flaming Cliffs by Eagle Dynamics' 2019-06-26 03:08:17.249 INFO Scripting: plugin: SKIPPED 'MiG-29 Fulcrum by Eagle Dynamics': disabled by 'Flaming Cliffs by Eagle Dynamics' 2019-06-26 03:08:17.249 INFO Scripting: plugin: SKIPPED 'Su-25A by Eagle Dynamics': disabled by 'Flaming Cliffs by Eagle Dynamics' 2019-06-26 03:08:17.249 INFO Scripting: plugin: SKIPPED 'Su-27 Flanker by Eagle Dynamics': disabled by 'Flaming Cliffs by Eagle Dynamics' 2019-06-26 03:08:17.249 INFO Scripting: plugin: SKIPPED 'Su-33 Flanker by Eagle Dynamics': disabled by 'Flaming Cliffs by Eagle Dynamics' 2019-06-26 03:08:17.252 INFO Scripting: PLUGINS DONE-------------------------------------------------- 2019-06-26 03:08:23.502 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./CoreMods/aircraft/AV8BNA/bin/AV8B_AI.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:23.511 INFO CE2_AI: Loading CE AI 2019-06-26 03:08:23.511 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./CoreMods/aircraft/Christen Eagle II/bin/CE2_AI.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:23.521 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./CoreMods/aircraft/F14/bin/F14-AI.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:23.530 INFO MiG21_AI: Loading CE AI 2019-06-26 03:08:23.530 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./CoreMods/aircraft/MiG-21BIS/bin/MiG21_AI.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:23.545 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./CoreMods/services/CaptoGlove/bin/edCaptoGlove.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:23.560 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded (mm) ./Mods/aircraft/AV8BNA/bin/AV8B_CPT.dll.crypt 2019-06-26 03:08:23.562 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded (mm) ./Mods/aircraft/AV8BNA/bin/AV8B_FM.dll.crypt 2019-06-26 03:08:24.315 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/Bf-109K-4/bin/Bf109K4.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:25.462 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/F-86/bin/F86.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:25.489 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded (mm) ./Mods/aircraft/FA-18C/bin/FA18C.dll.crypt 2019-06-26 03:08:26.373 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/FW-190D9/bin/FW190D9.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:26.494 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/FW-190D9/bin/Cockpit_FW190D9.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:27.583 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/Flaming Cliffs/bin/FC3.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:27.745 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/Flaming Cliffs/bin/A10A.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:27.960 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/Flaming Cliffs/bin/F15.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:28.499 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/Flaming Cliffs/bin/Su27.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:28.807 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/Flaming Cliffs/bin/Su33.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:28.818 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/Flaming Cliffs/bin/MiG29.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:29.596 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/Ka-50/bin/Ka50.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:29.669 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/Ka-50/bin/CockpitKa50.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:30.502 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/MiG-15bis/bin/Mig15.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:30.514 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/P-51D/bin/P51Base.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:31.458 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/P-51D/bin/P51B.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:31.585 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/P-51D/bin/Cockpit_P51Common.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:31.660 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/P-51D/bin/Cockpit_P51D.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:31.665 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded (mm) ./Mods/aircraft/SpitfireLFMkIX/bin/SpitfireLFMkIX.dll.crypt 2019-06-26 03:08:31.667 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/TF-51D/bin/P51Base.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:31.675 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/TF-51D/bin/TF51D.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:31.678 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/TF-51D/bin/Cockpit_P51Common.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:32.596 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/Uh-1H/bin/Uh1H.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:32.752 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/Uh-1H/bin/CockpitUH1H.dll 2019-06-26 03:08:32.757 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded (mm) ./Mods/aircraft/Yak-52/bin/Yak52.dll.crypt 2019-06-26 03:08:32.950 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded ./Mods/aircraft/jsAvionics/bin/jsAvionics.dll Owen Owen i5 4670 , Asrock Z87 pro4 , MSI 2070 8gb , 16gb ram , Odyssey+ , Thrustmaster 16000 , mouse and keyboard.
toutenglisse Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 2019-06-26 03:08:05.833 INFO DCS: CPU cores: 4, threads: 4, System RAM: 16314 MB, Pagefile: 19258 MB That means you only have 3GB of virtual memory set for 16GB of ram - it's too low and can strongly cause crash - set virtual memory to 16GB (at least - I have 32 + 32 (DCS shows 32/64) and DCS took in SP yesterday 18 +25 in PG map) how to, for exemple : https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/77692-manage-virtual-memory-pagefile-windows-10-a.html 2019-06-26 03:08:06.432 ERROR NET: HTTP request dcs:login failed with error 6: Couldn't resolve host name 2019-06-26 03:08:06.432 INFO NET: Login server has timed out. Login / authoriz. failed - maybe Something to do with firewall / anti-virus.
owennealkennygmail.com Posted June 28, 2019 Author Posted June 28, 2019 Hi Toutenglisse , I read and answered the other post before I read this one. I'll give the virtual memory a go but I'm definitely going to get rid of build 1903 first. I had a look at the list of problems that it is causing and games not loading properly is one of them. Owen Owen i5 4670 , Asrock Z87 pro4 , MSI 2070 8gb , 16gb ram , Odyssey+ , Thrustmaster 16000 , mouse and keyboard.
owennealkennygmail.com Posted June 28, 2019 Author Posted June 28, 2019 I had a look and my pagefile setting is 3gb. It is set automatically . My C: drive is almost totally full so that could explain some of the problems I have been having. A great find , thank you very much. I have a 450 gb ssd that I am going to replace my existing c: drive with (120gb ssd) That should allow me to set a much greater amount for the pagefile. My games are on a separate 500gb ssd. Should I allocate space for the pagefile on that drive or leave it on c , or set it on both ? Is there an upper limit to the amount I should set or as you say about the same as ram?? Owen Owen i5 4670 , Asrock Z87 pro4 , MSI 2070 8gb , 16gb ram , Odyssey+ , Thrustmaster 16000 , mouse and keyboard.
toutenglisse Posted June 28, 2019 Posted June 28, 2019 This does meet consensus for users having crashes because too low ram/pagefile, with exact numbers (I don't know why so precize setting counts ? but anyway it works) : https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=230471 If you get some nice amount of free space with greater SSD I'll even advise to increase pagefile/virtual memory to 32 GB, you'll have 16GB real ram + 32 GB virtual, wich in my experience should be enough. (I only set it on c: (1TB ssd, with OS + DCS also on it) but you can have several ssd drives with pagefile)
owennealkennygmail.com Posted July 2, 2019 Author Posted July 2, 2019 Hi BIGNEWY and Toutenglisse , I have loaded win10 build 1809 to a new ssd. It is very good with no problems so far. It looks like maybe my gear is just too old to work with 1903 or maybe a glitch in 1903 itself. Anyway thanks for the help and if you have any wonderful ideas to get DCS running on all 4 cores I'd appreciate them. I will be upping the virtual memory first off. Many thanks Owen Owen i5 4670 , Asrock Z87 pro4 , MSI 2070 8gb , 16gb ram , Odyssey+ , Thrustmaster 16000 , mouse and keyboard.
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