New to DCS! Which CPU, MOBO, RAM upgrade?

[SAABoy]

Hi :)

I started playing DCS a few months ago. In addition to the 2 freebie modules I bought FC3 during the last sale and I'm looking forward to more DCS in the coming years. Maybe the F14B if I can get a buddy into DCS too :)

 

Half of my PC is leftover from 10 years ago; i7 920 cpu, $200 EVGA mobo from that era, 12?gb ram from that era. I was considering $300-600 budget (~$100-200/component) for an upgrade. I recently discovered Windows 10's game screen capturing feature and had a ton of fun recording and editing my first DCS video using the Windows XBOX-labeled recording feature and DaVinci Resolve freebie video editing. I brought this up since my research so far shows 2700 vs. 3600 depending on pure gaming vs. multi-tasking for recording/streaming at the same time but not sure how much weight to put on each priority.

 

My goal is to max out DCS on my main montior Dell 27" 1440p 144/155hz and record as well but probably not live stream. Maybe VR in the future too but seems expensive (new steam headset is $1000 :0 ).

 

Current gear:

X52 Pro HOTAS

Track IR5

GPU: Vega 56 Liquid Cooled

PSU: Months old EVGA 850W GQ

Tower: CM690 with lots of large fans

256gb SSD for OS and program files

1tb HDD for docs

Monitors:

1x Dell 27" 1440, 144/155hz main

2x Dell 24" 1920x1200, 60hz side monitors: I turn these off during any intense gaming but have 1 or 2 on in addition to main during light gaming or work.

 

CPU idea is: 2700 or 3600 :huh:

MOBO idea is: GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE AMD Ryzen 3000 PCIe 4.0 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.2 AMD X570 ATX Motherboard

RAM idea is: G.SKILL Trident Z Neo (For AMD Ryzen) Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin RGB DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GTZNC

Edited September 23, 2019 by SAABoy

[tintifaxl]

My goal is to max out DCS on my main montior Dell 27" 1440p 144/155hz and record as well but probably not live stream.

 

Not doable with the Vega 56.

[David OC]

At the moment with DCS more Ghz bound for now.

 

Go for AMD or Intel above 4+ Ghz 6 core cpu.

 

I would not go under an RTX 2070 super @ 1440P or VR for DCS with high settings MSAA x 2, It eats FPS at 4x. That's for 1440p monitor.

You will need to drop a few setting for VR to hold 45 fps.

 

I still run a 1080ti and 4 core cpu, not upgrading yet. As the gain is only 25 to 30% with a 2080ti, at double the cost!! of the 1080ti I bought.

 

vega 56 vs 2070 super

 

You could try the vega 56 @ 1440p

I had a 1070 for awhile and was running 1440p, not max setting(Mid to high). I had to play around a bit with settings, same with VR.

Sick of messing around and not flying, hence the 1080ti lol.

 

Another SSD..? I'm sitting around 167 GB. That's all of the maps tho. DCS has it's own ssd drive and has to be on an ssd or real slow...loading.

To balance / smooth my system and track ir out. I have it lock at 60 fps, which it can hold with max setting (MSAA x 2) while recording on the largest DCS sever.

Edited September 24, 2019 by David OC

[SAABoy]

Not doable with the Vega 56.

 

Then it looks like I'm settling for the best I can do with a Vega 56.

[SAABoy]

At the moment with DCS more Ghz bound for now.

 

Go for AMD or Intel above 4+ Ghz 6 core cpu.

 

I would not go under an RTX 2070 super @ 1440P or VR for DCS with high settings MSAA x 2, It eats FPS at 4x. That's for 1440p monitor.

You will need to drop a few setting for VR to hold 45 fps.

 

I still run a 1080ti and 4 core cpu, not upgrading yet. As the gain is only 25 to 30% with a 2080ti, at double the cost!! of the 1080ti I bought.

 

vega 56 vs 2070 super

 

You could try the vega 56 @ 1440p

I had a 1070 for awhile and was running 1440p, not max setting(Mid to high). I had to play around a bit with settings, same with VR.

Sick of messing around and not flying, hence the 1080ti lol.

 

Another SSD..? I'm sitting around 167 GB. That's all of the maps tho. DCS has it's own ssd drive and has to be on an ssd or real slow...loading.

To balance / smooth my system and track ir out. I have it lock at 60 fps, which it can hold with max setting (MSAA x 2) while recording on the largest DCS sever.

 

Would you consider 3600 as 4+ Ghz since it has boost? I'm trying to decide on a MOBO, CPU, and RAM for my existing build.

[BitMaster]

3600 is a valid candidate.

 

It will Turbo to where you need it w/o overclocking.

Sure, a 3700X or even 3900X will be 5-10 fps ( at max ) better, but you can go with a B450 board and use that saved money for a 3700X, if that is an option for you.

 

The main limiter will be the Vega56 tbh, all of those CPUs will have the same fps with that card, I am 99% sure

[SAABoy]

3600 is a valid candidate.

 

It will Turbo to where you need it w/o overclocking.

Sure, a 3700X or even 3900X will be 5-10 fps ( at max ) better, but you can go with a B450 board and use that saved money for a 3700X, if that is an option for you.

 

The main limiter will be the Vega56 tbh, all of those CPUs will have the same fps with that card, I am 99% sure

 

Given my build and my monitor what MOBO, RAM, and 3600 vs 2700?

[BitMaster]

I'd grab a Gigabyte or Asus board from the mid-tier, 150-2xx€, a 32GB 3200 or faster RAM from QVL and a 3600.

 

 

A B450 board + Ryzen 3600 is maybe the best bang for the buck right now.

 

 

I would certainly go 32GB to avoid any problems down the road with upgrading 16 to 32GB, which can be complicated or near impossible unless you stick with 2133/2666 MHz.

 

 

I know, it's a trade one for the other if the budget is tight :(

[boozer1]

I just built a system with a B450 board + Ryzen 3600, 32 gb of DDR-4 3200 and a 2070 super. DCS runs with no problems on single and multiplayer.

[BitMaster]

I just built a system with a B450 board + Ryzen 3600, 32 gb of DDR-4 3200 and a 2070 super. DCS runs with no problems on single and multiplayer.

 

There you go :thumbup:

[SAABoy]

Thanks all. I'm current leaning towards 3600 vs 2700, 450mobo over 570 mobo, and 32gb ram over 16gb ram. For 32gb ram should I go 4x8 or 2x16?

[BitMaster]

2x16GB is more likely to work at advertised speeds. I would prefer that one and definitely 32GB

[Geraki]

I am interested to buy this ATI Sapphire Radeon RX 580 8GB Nitro+ for 150 euro ...

 

it was in the exhibition never used .....

 

 

DCS F-16 module

what do you think?

 

I have now ATI Sapphire Flex 7870 2 GB and maybe I will use them for DCS with crossfire !!!

 

or better to go for Nvidia ?

your opinion?

 

 

CPU QX9770 3.8Ghz 16 GB RAM ASUS p5e3 deluxe

[tintifaxl]

I am interested to buy this ATI Sapphire Radeon RX 580 8GB Nitro+ for 150 euro ...

 

it was in the exhibition never used .....

 

 

DCS F-16 module

what do you think?

 

I have now ATI Sapphire Flex 7870 2 GB and maybe I will use them for DCS with crossfire !!!

 

or better to go for Nvidia ?

your opinion?

 

 

CPU QX9770 3.8Ghz 16 GB RAM ASUS p5e3 deluxe

 

The card is a good choice for your slow cpu. Forget about Crossfire; DCS doesn't support it well (if at all) and mixing that old 7870 with only 2GB vram with the 580 will only slow you down as well.

 

Make sure to your power supply provides the 2x8pin cables you need for the 580 and enough space in the case. That GPU is large!

[Geraki]

The card is a good choice for your slow cpu. Forget about Crossfire; DCS doesn't support it well (if at all) and mixing that old 7870 with only 2GB vram with the 580 will only slow you down as well.

 

Make sure to your power supply provides the 2x8pin cables you need for the 580 and enough space in the case. That GPU is large!

 

thank you very much!!!!