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To whom it may concern,

I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that.

Thank you for you patience.

 

 

Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..

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To whom it may concern,

I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that.

Thank you for you patience.

 

 

Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..

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To whom it may concern,

I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that.

Thank you for you patience.

 

 

Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..

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To whom it may concern,

I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that.

Thank you for you patience.

 

 

Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..

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To fix the white-blank youtube vids on this forum just use the video ID, e.g. for that video

the id is iw7Cpv2zorw and this is the only thing you need on ED forums i.e.:

 

[YOUTUBE]iw7Cpv2zorw[/YOUTU BE] (remove the space)

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Thanks, they change it on me, did not even notice

To whom it may concern,

I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that.

Thank you for you patience.

 

 

Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..

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Air Force hires Russian jets

 

Antonov planes ship MRAP vehicles out of Charleston

 

By Ron Menchaca

 

The Post and Courier

Saturday, January 5, 2008

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Antonov planes ship MRAP vehicles out of Charleston

 

 

 

The Charleston Air Force Base is synonymous with its C-17 cargo planes, the mammoth military workhorses of the Lowcountry skies. But demand for armored vehicles in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have brought a new plane to town, and forced the U.S. Air Force to rely on an unlikely partner to help transport the trucks to the war zones: Cold War enemy Russia.

The Department of Defense is contracting with two Russian-based companies that operate fleets of Russian-made cargo planes to move the desperately needed, mine-resistant vehicles to troops overseas.

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Airman 1st Class Sam Hymas/U.S. Air Force

The Russian-made Antonov An-124 is a behemoth aircraft capable of transporting twice as many of the largest style of armored vehicles - four as opposed to two - as the U.S. Air Force's C-17.

 

That's because in addition to the Air Force's C-17 and its largest cargo plane, the C-5, the Russian-made An-124 is the only other aircraft in the world with enough room and lift to haul the massive armored trucks.

The Antonov An-124 Condor is the largest commercially available aircraft in the world, with a 240-foot wingspan and lift capability of 120 metric tons.

Roadside bomb attacks targeting American and coalition troops in Iraq and Afghanistan accelerated demand for the lifesaving armored vehicles in recent years. The trucks, known in military jargon as Mine-Resistant Ambush-Protected vehicles, or MRAPs, are

The An-124 can carry four of the largest style of armored vehicle, twice as many as the C-17 can hold. Each vehicle weighs about 38,000 pounds.

To meet the need, the U.S. military began a $300 million, six-month contract in October with Volga-Dnepr, a Russian company with a U.S. office in Houston. The company uses Russian crews, including pilots.

Another smaller Russian-based company, Polet Cargo Airlines, also is supplying An-124s for the missions. Both companies are subcontracted through American-flag carriers Atlas Air and Lynden Air Cargo as part of the military's Civil Reserve Airlift Fleet.

"Most Americans would be shocked to know this fact," said MacKenzie Eaglen, a senior policy analyst with Heritage Foundation, a Washington think-tank. "It shows the challenges facing the Air Force."

The U.S. military routinely contracts with civilian airline and maritime companies to move troops and equipment overseas. Volga-Dnepr has moved U.S. military cargo for years, according to the company.

Charleston Air Force Base officials referred questions about the Russian aircraft to the U.S. Transportation Command at Scott Air Force Base in Illinois.

Army Lt. Col. Frederick Rice, the command's public affairs officer, said the contract does not mean that the military lacks the ability to do the job with its own aircraft. He said the Russian aircraft frees C-17s and C-5s to fly other missions. "As we continue on a daily basis to support operations, we still want to move troops, bullets and beans," Rice said.

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He said early demand for armored vehicles was so great that the Air Force opted to transport the cargo by air, a faster but more costly method. As demand has stabilized, the military also has started shipping the trucks by sea. Last month, a military-chartered ship left Charleston for Iraq carrying 240 of the armored vehicles, a voyage that took nearly a month.

Eaglen said the use of Russian aircraft highlights the Air Force's budget challenges as it continues to fly war missions with an aging fleet of aircraft. "They are flying more, longer and harder flights and face a $20 billion shortfall for modernization."

The Air Force owns 111 C-5s and 171 C-17s, including about 50 assigned to the Charleston Air Force Base. But the C-17s are spread thin with constant missions, and the C-5 fleet is in dire need of technological upgrades, military analysts have said.

Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne told the House Armed Services Committee in October that relying on the Russian jumbo jets to move war supplies indicates that the Air Force might need more C-5s and C-17s.

"We are now sharing the mission of flying (armored vehicles) over to Iraq between C-17s and Antonov airplanes," Wynne said, according to a report in the Air Force Times. "Did [we] truly envision that we would fly war supplies with Russian-made airplanes? I don't know."

Complicating matters, Boeing, the maker of the C-17, announced in August that it would cease production of the plane in 2009 unless the Air Force orders more planes.

The company has manufactured about 180 C-17s for the Air Force. Rice said there are commitments in place to grow the C-17 fleet to 190. Beyond that, it's up to Congress, which is debating whether to continue funding enough C-17s to keep production afloat.

Ron King, commercial director for Volga-Dnepr in Houston, said his company is happy to fill the void.

The company has a fleet of 10 An-124s out of about 22 in commercial operation worldwide. The Soviet-built Antonov debuted in 1982. It was first made for the Russian Air Force, which still maintains a fleet. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, private investors bought up dozens of the aircraft. Since then the jumbo jets have been in heavy demand for oversized cargo jobs around the world.

Volga-Dnepr began offering its charter services in the United States in 2000. The company's An-124s have moved a wide variety of items — towering Christmas trees, rocket boosters, offshore oil rigs and space satellites.

"If it's big and ugly, we have moved it," King said. "At this point, we could double our fleet and keep them busy."

The contract for the Russian Antonovs runs through March. From a cargo standpoint, the armored vehicles moving out of Charleston are unremarkable, King said.

"It's just another job, very straightforward as far as we are concerned," King said.

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Air Force hires Russian jets

 

Antonov planes ship MRAP vehicles out of Charleston

 

By Ron Menchaca

 

The Post and Courier

Saturday, January 5, 2008

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Antonov planes ship MRAP vehicles out of Charleston

 

 

 

The Charleston Air Force Base is synonymous with its C-17 cargo planes, the mammoth military workhorses of the Lowcountry skies. But demand for armored vehicles in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have brought a new plane to town, and forced the U.S. Air Force to rely on an unlikely partner to help transport the trucks to the war zones: Cold War enemy Russia.

The Department of Defense is contracting with two Russian-based companies that operate fleets of Russian-made cargo planes to move the desperately needed, mine-resistant vehicles to troops overseas.

mainlede_antonov_t180.jpg?370a03faaa4bde2115f371a02430eb3e6a451be5

Airman 1st Class Sam Hymas/U.S. Air Force

The Russian-made Antonov An-124 is a behemoth aircraft capable of transporting twice as many of the largest style of armored vehicles - four as opposed to two - as the U.S. Air Force's C-17.

 

That's because in addition to the Air Force's C-17 and its largest cargo plane, the C-5, the Russian-made An-124 is the only other aircraft in the world with enough room and lift to haul the massive armored trucks.

The Antonov An-124 Condor is the largest commercially available aircraft in the world, with a 240-foot wingspan and lift capability of 120 metric tons.

Roadside bomb attacks targeting American and coalition troops in Iraq and Afghanistan accelerated demand for the lifesaving armored vehicles in recent years. The trucks, known in military jargon as Mine-Resistant Ambush-Protected vehicles, or MRAPs, are

The An-124 can carry four of the largest style of armored vehicle, twice as many as the C-17 can hold. Each vehicle weighs about 38,000 pounds.

To meet the need, the U.S. military began a $300 million, six-month contract in October with Volga-Dnepr, a Russian company with a U.S. office in Houston. The company uses Russian crews, including pilots.

Another smaller Russian-based company, Polet Cargo Airlines, also is supplying An-124s for the missions. Both companies are subcontracted through American-flag carriers Atlas Air and Lynden Air Cargo as part of the military's Civil Reserve Airlift Fleet.

"Most Americans would be shocked to know this fact," said MacKenzie Eaglen, a senior policy analyst with Heritage Foundation, a Washington think-tank. "It shows the challenges facing the Air Force."

The U.S. military routinely contracts with civilian airline and maritime companies to move troops and equipment overseas. Volga-Dnepr has moved U.S. military cargo for years, according to the company.

Charleston Air Force Base officials referred questions about the Russian aircraft to the U.S. Transportation Command at Scott Air Force Base in Illinois.

Army Lt. Col. Frederick Rice, the command's public affairs officer, said the contract does not mean that the military lacks the ability to do the job with its own aircraft. He said the Russian aircraft frees C-17s and C-5s to fly other missions. "As we continue on a daily basis to support operations, we still want to move troops, bullets and beans," Rice said.

antonov_grfx_t180.jpg?370a03faaa4bde2115f371a02430eb3e6a451be5

 

He said early demand for armored vehicles was so great that the Air Force opted to transport the cargo by air, a faster but more costly method. As demand has stabilized, the military also has started shipping the trucks by sea. Last month, a military-chartered ship left Charleston for Iraq carrying 240 of the armored vehicles, a voyage that took nearly a month.

Eaglen said the use of Russian aircraft highlights the Air Force's budget challenges as it continues to fly war missions with an aging fleet of aircraft. "They are flying more, longer and harder flights and face a $20 billion shortfall for modernization."

The Air Force owns 111 C-5s and 171 C-17s, including about 50 assigned to the Charleston Air Force Base. But the C-17s are spread thin with constant missions, and the C-5 fleet is in dire need of technological upgrades, military analysts have said.

Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne told the House Armed Services Committee in October that relying on the Russian jumbo jets to move war supplies indicates that the Air Force might need more C-5s and C-17s.

"We are now sharing the mission of flying (armored vehicles) over to Iraq between C-17s and Antonov airplanes," Wynne said, according to a report in the Air Force Times. "Did [we] truly envision that we would fly war supplies with Russian-made airplanes? I don't know."

Complicating matters, Boeing, the maker of the C-17, announced in August that it would cease production of the plane in 2009 unless the Air Force orders more planes.

The company has manufactured about 180 C-17s for the Air Force. Rice said there are commitments in place to grow the C-17 fleet to 190. Beyond that, it's up to Congress, which is debating whether to continue funding enough C-17s to keep production afloat.

Ron King, commercial director for Volga-Dnepr in Houston, said his company is happy to fill the void.

The company has a fleet of 10 An-124s out of about 22 in commercial operation worldwide. The Soviet-built Antonov debuted in 1982. It was first made for the Russian Air Force, which still maintains a fleet. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, private investors bought up dozens of the aircraft. Since then the jumbo jets have been in heavy demand for oversized cargo jobs around the world.

Volga-Dnepr began offering its charter services in the United States in 2000. The company's An-124s have moved a wide variety of items — towering Christmas trees, rocket boosters, offshore oil rigs and space satellites.

"If it's big and ugly, we have moved it," King said. "At this point, we could double our fleet and keep them busy."

The contract for the Russian Antonovs runs through March. From a cargo standpoint, the armored vehicles moving out of Charleston are unremarkable, King said.

"It's just another job, very straightforward as far as we are concerned," King said.

 

didn't think there was such demand for that kind of plane it's cool to see these mythical planes still in the skies

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isn't the an-225 the largest in the world?

 

Yeah. That said, having due regard to the fact that there is only one 225, the An-124 remains the largest 'commercially available aircraft in the world'.

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Yes, and so could a teleportation device. Yet, neither is 'comercially available' ;)

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Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.

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Could an ekranoplan serve the same role?

 

Theoretically, who knows, maybe. Practically, unfortunately not. Sad to see such a majestic plane earthbound :noexpression:

 

 

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More Pics here:

 

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Nice little website I found, not sure if it's been posted before. Lots of nice photos

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http://www.defenseimagery.mil/imagery.html

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To whom it may concern,

I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that.

Thank you for you patience.

 

 

Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..

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'.....Somewhere in the Virtual Skies......'

 

 

F-16: Bastage - Where's he gone?

 

Mig: Tee Hee Hee.......Toggle Comms: Boo!

 

F-16: Aaargghhh.......Aaargghhh.......W......T.......F!!

BOOM......WHOOSH.......Fcuk.....Premature Ejection :music_whistling:

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Here is something you don't see every day. MLU F-16 firing an AIM-7

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To whom it may concern,

I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that.

Thank you for you patience.

 

 

Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..

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