Updated Win 10 to version 1903, graphics looks worse

[-0303-]

Big MS update apparently. Took an hour instead of usual minute for standard updates.

 

In DCS

 

Chat text is bigger and blockier.

Graphics looks worse with the same settings.

FPS seems the same but simultaneously 'jerkier'.

 

Did graphics drivers get switched?

What can i do?

[Worrazen]

Windows 10 is a mean machine, updating is brutal, this is not the kind of model suitable for such software. That large update probably did a whole lot of things, including the GPU drivers most likely, I never liked such ways and never will, they ALWAYS cause problems or increase the risk, as they cram so much changes into one ball of mess and windows isn't designed to deal with it, it's not linux where you can update so much stuff without even rebooting the machine for months.

 

I hoped there would be an edition of windows suitable for gamers and professionals alike, but there isn't.

 

Anyhow I still run 1607 Anniversary Update and I have remained completely unaffected from anything regarding Windows, it wasn't hard to foresee this, getting experience from Win7 days. Only when major things stop working that I require, will I update. I don't lie I kinda "pray" a bit every day for 1607 to keep working into the future.

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It's been trying and failing to update to 1903 for 6 months at least. There was now a message kind I've never seen before.

It said among that support for 2018 version 1803 would stop in November so it seemed I had to.

 

 

I'll try reinstalling.

 

I'll try finding Nvidia drivers.

Good thing I have an image backup from just earlier this week so I can go back in less than 7 minutes (well, plus 2 hours to reinstall DCS).

 

I think getting better working drivers should be possible though.

[Davee]

Big MS update apparently. Took an hour instead of usual minute for standard updates.

 

In DCS

 

Chat text is bigger and blockier.

Graphics looks worse with the same settings.

FPS seems the same but simultaneously 'jerkier'.

 

Did graphics drivers get switched?

What can i do?

 

Suggest re-install of your graphics drivers. This happens fairly often with a W10 update.

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I have the same graphics drivers version 388.57. It still look worse. Chat text is big and ugly. texture cockpit look blurrier.

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Slightly weirdly, a screenshot expanded to full screen does not look bad. As if the run time stretches it somehow.

Edited October 27, 2019 by -0303-

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Because of fps I run at lowest possible res (1280x768?). Here the image looks good. But when I Alt-Enter to full screen it becomes ugly. For some reason stretching from 1280x768 to 1920x1080 now makes the chat text big and blocky and the overall image fuzzier.

 

It did not do that before my Windows update to Win 10 ver 1903.

 

Ideas?

Running at 1920x1080 bad option, I don't want to loose fps (loose about 5 or 25%).

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I've discovered the display drivers are retained during Win 10 update. Except it's "hidden". Version is 388.57. I discovered if I install latest version (391.35) it will show up in control panel as "391.35" but if I then uninstall 391.35 then pre Win 10 upgrade 388.57 will be listed. So it was there all the time.

Does this help me? Well, I know Win 10 doesn't arbitrarily install another driver. As mentioned in 1st post, I thought it had been wiped and replaced.

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I now believe there is some new behavior from Win 10 when Alt-Enter to full screen. Note, I'm not loosing fps, it's just uglier.

 

Edit/fix (Alt-Enter not alt-tab)

Edited November 7, 2019 by -0303-

[BitMaster]

iirc 388.57 is the default NV driver in 10, installed with 10.

 

Update to the newest one your card supports and report back. Those drivers you use are very old by now.

 

What are your HW specs btw ?

[-0303-]

iirc 388.57 is the default NV driver in 10, installed with 10.

Have a vague memory of specifically installing 388.57 (years ago) as latest drivers. But it is possible Win 10 did this also.

388.57 is not downloadable from ASUS. Closest is 388.59. I tried 388.13, 388.59 & 391.35, it's not different.

https://www.geforce.com/drivers

Version: 391.35 - Release Date: Tue Mar 27, 2018

Version: 391.24 - Release Date: Tue Mar 20, 2018

Version: 391.01 - Release Date: Mon Feb 26, 2018

Version: 390.77 - Release Date: Mon Jan 29, 2018

Version: 390.65 - Release Date: Mon Jan 08, 2018

Version: 388.71 - Release Date: Wed Dec 20, 2017

Version: 388.59 - Release Date: Thu Dec 07, 2017

Version: 388.43 - Release Date: Thu Nov 30, 2017

Version: 388.31 - Release Date: Wed Nov 15, 2017

Version: 388.13 - Release Date: Mon Oct 30, 2017

Specs: Commodore 64

ASUS K55VJ-SX026

Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM Processor, 4 core, 6M Cache, up to 3.40 GHz (base 2.4 GHz)

Model : GeForce GT 635M/PCIe/SSE2, 2GB

16GB DDR3L PC3-12800 = DDR3-1600

SSD Kingston SA400S37 480GB

I've read there's old mods (User Files) to increase chat text size. I would want to do the opposite.

Radio and chat text enlarger for high resolution screens

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/1412130/

I think "scale GUI" checkbox increases font sizes automatically for very high resolutions. Obviously not what I look for either. I might experiment with this files (except making text smaller):

I figured out how to make the chat text bigger!After digging around in the config files, I finally found it! The file you need to edit is:

C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\FUI\Resources\Multiplayer\chat_list_box_item.res On the line

\fonttype {font_dejavu_lgc_sans_condensed_10} change the number to your desired font size. Valid sizes are 10, 12, 14, 15, 17, and 19. Other fonts in FUI/Fonts will also work, probably.

[BitMaster]

Your mobile GPU & CPU are at the very low end, I guess you know this.

 

I have played on a mobile 650GT years back in 2012 and it was just tolerable, nothing great tbh.

My fps back then were 30-40 with low-mid settings. I really really doubt that DCS 2.5 will run smooth, even when you stretch the term smooth to the far extend, on a 635er card with a CPU that tops out 3.5G.

 

I am not sure if some settings will cure the illness, it's a lack of VRAM and Gigahertz. You have enough RAM and a SSD, that is the good part of my understanding of your problem.

 

If it ran "ok" before 1903 hit you, call yourself very lucky.

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Found it. Checked "Disable fullscreen optimizations" and graphics looks nicer again.

 

 

 

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/104080-enable-disable-fullscreen-optimizations-windows-10-a.html#option4

 

 

Windows 10 introduced a new feature called fullscreen optimizations that is enabled by default. Fullscreen optimizations may lead to better gaming and app performance when they are running in fullscreen mode. However, some people have reported that fullscreen optimizations doesn't always improve gaming and app performance.

 

 

This tutorial will show different ways to enable and disable fullscreen optimizations for apps and games for your account or all users in Windows 10.

 

 

My error, kept meaning Alt-Enter (to full screen) not alt tab throughout this thread.

Edited November 6, 2019 by -0303-

[BuzzU]

I use 1903 with 430.86 drivers and all sims look good.

[Outlaw24]

I having no problems with Windows 1903 and driver 441.12. all look good.

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Nothing to do with graphic drivers. Only the specific situation of doing Alt-Enter full screen with a resolution lower than the monitors capacity.

 

-Set DCS resolution 1280x768 (for fps reasons).

-Alt-Enter to full screen (1920x1080 my screen).

 

After 1903 update full screen Alt-Enter full screen graphics become 'ugly' (no problem with the 1280x768 window).

Checking "Disable fullscreen optimizations" fixed it. Maybe the status of this checkbox changed during upgrade or maybe 1903 does things differently necessitating disabling fullscreen optimizations.