Marcq Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 I'm in the process of building a Harrier throttle, in real, does it run on rails? Some other variant do not but in DCS it sure looks like it's running on rail Marc..
Marcq Posted December 9, 2019 Author Posted December 9, 2019 Yeah I saw those pictures, not to many around, I wish I could see some of the recent one full throttle to see if it actually changes angle as the throttle is move forward Thanks Marc..
TomVR Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 front the linkage at the bottom it looks like it rotates as a lever to me.
Marcq Posted December 9, 2019 Author Posted December 9, 2019 front the linkage at the bottom it looks like it rotates as a lever to me. Yeah, you probably right, I hope so anyway Thanks, Marc..
RustBelt Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 Yes it's a rotating Quadrant not a slider. Same for the nozzle lever and the nozzle lever stop. You can see it work in this show, at 27 min in. Sadly it's the "Great Planes" original and not the superior theme song of the Discovery WINGS repackage.
Marcq Posted December 10, 2019 Author Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) Yes it's a rotating Quadrant not a slider. Same for the nozzle lever and the nozzle lever stop. You can see it work in this show, at 27 min in. Sadly it's the "Great Planes" original and not the superior theme song of the Discovery WINGS repackage. That throttle is not like the AV-8B, you can see the difference , the one on the video as a curved hood, the AV-8B is flat, most throttle have a curved hood but not if you're on rails That's one reason I think it's on rails and in DCS it looks like it's on rail Thanks Marc.. Edited December 10, 2019 by Marcq
Dropship Pilot Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 Marcq, I see where you come from as there's no arc section on the throttle lever, while there's one for the nozzle and nozzle stop levers. However, if you have a closer look at the lever of the throttle, you can see that it points toward the same axis as the other levers. For the nozzle stop lever, you need the arc to make it lock into position. On the throttle, there is no need for the arc and that makes it look like its linear actuated. The reason for most throttles to be rotation based is that it's much easier to build a smooth and reliable rotational axis compared to a translational axis. A rotational bearing can easily be completely sealed, while it takes much more effort/space to protect the linear rail from dirt and damage. You should also keep in mind, that the real throttle levers are usually much longer (3-4 times) as on "our" setups (TM Warthog for example). This makes the motion equally much more linear (you can think of a linear motion as a rotation about an axis that is at infinity). What puzzles me more about the Harrier throttle is how you operate the switches at the bottom of the throttle handle (e.g. Comms and Air Brake). How do you reach those? Your fingers won't reach that far around the throttle grip and could interfere with the switches at the front and for the thumb it's also no easy to reach position. :huh: Cheers, DSP
Marcq Posted December 10, 2019 Author Posted December 10, 2019 Marcq, I see where you come from as there's no arc section on the throttle lever, while there's one for the nozzle and nozzle stop levers. However, if you have a closer look at the lever of the throttle, you can see that it points toward the same axis as the other levers. For the nozzle stop lever, you need the arc to make it lock into position. On the throttle, there is no need for the arc and that makes it look like its linear actuated. The reason for most throttles to be rotation based is that it's much easier to build a smooth and reliable rotational axis compared to a translational axis. A rotational bearing can easily be completely sealed, while it takes much more effort/space to protect the linear rail from dirt and damage. You should also keep in mind, that the real throttle levers are usually much longer (3-4 times) as on "our" setups (TM Warthog for example). This makes the motion equally much more linear (you can think of a linear motion as a rotation about an axis that is at infinity). Yup!! All valid point What puzzles me more about the Harrier throttle is how you operate the switches at the bottom of the throttle handle (e.g. Comms and Air Brake). How do you reach those? Your fingers won't reach that far around the throttle grip and could interfere with the switches at the front and for the thumb it's also no easy to reach position. :huh: Cheers, DSP Yeah those switches are really oddly located Thanks, Marc..
RustBelt Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 What puzzles me more about the Harrier throttle is how you operate the switches at the bottom of the throttle handle (e.g. Comms and Air Brake). How do you reach those? Your fingers won't reach that far around the throttle grip and could interfere with the switches at the front and for the thumb it's also no easy to reach position. :huh: Cheers, DSP It sticks "UP" more than you think it does, You "choke up" on it so your thumb is usually in a position to use those switches. Where the contour changes 3/4th of the way up is usually where your thumb sits. You reach out to get at the stuff on the tip or slide your hand up. It's not an Optimally designed HOTAS, it's a long evolution from a fairly basic throttle handle.
Dropship Pilot Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 It sticks "UP" more than you think it does, You "choke up" on it so your thumb is usually in a position to use those switches. Where the contour changes 3/4th of the way up is usually where your thumb sits. You reach out to get at the stuff on the tip or slide your hand up. It's not an Optimally designed HOTAS, it's a long evolution from a fairly basic throttle handle. Ah, now it starts making sense - so you operate the switches at the at the end (top/right) with thumb stretched out and the ones on the bottom with the bend thumb. Thanks a lot! :thumbup: Cheers, DSP
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